[iPeng Announce] Easier to share, lower price (iPhone)

[pippin]

Dear iPeng Fans!

There are new releases of iPeng for iPhone (1.5.3) and iPeng for iPad (1.3.3) in the App Store now and while they bring now new features this time, there are quite a number of improvements for all those of you who are using iPeng on several devices.

Sharing Playback

While iPeng for iPhone and iPeng for iPad are separate Apps, iPeng Playback was a feature that could always be shared between the two if done right, actually you even get an 80% discount on it if you own both Apps.

In the past this required both Apps to be installed on the iPad. And to restore the feature on a new device you had to restore the feature on each device to enable it.

With iPeng 1.5.3/1.3.3 you can use iCloud instead. All you need to do is to have iCloud enabled on your devices (and, of course, you have to use the same iTunes account) and once you have purchased the playback feature, within a few minutes it will automatically be available and enabled on all your iCloud-enabled devices, iPhone, iPod touch or iPad. There's nothing else you have to do for this.

Discounted Playback

The same applies to the Discounted Playback feature. If you own both iPeng for iPhone and iPad you get an 80% discount on Playback. Now, again, all you need to do for this is enable iCloud on your iPhone, iPod and iPad and you can purchase the discounted feature on any of your devices (please check the price in the purchase dialog!). Of course, once enabled it will also be usable by all your other little penguins.

If you don't want to use iCloud the old behavior with it's limitations will still be available.

New Price on iPhone/iPod touch

This is the first time ever we are changing a price for iPeng! So far, iPeng's App price has always been 10 US$ for each of the Apps (except for iPeng Party, of course, which is free), now we are offering the iPhone and iPad versions at different prices. Since July 1st, iPeng for iPhone sells at 5 US$.

Why is that?

Essentially, we believe iPeng has changed and also the way remote controls are being used has changed. When iPeng came out, for the first time you were able to have access to all your music in the palm of your hand in such an easy way and it revolutionized the way people used their Squeezeboxes (or music devices in general). You could hold it in one hand, carry it everywhere and it had all the performance to let you search and browse your music and control your players.

Now, since then, the iPad has arrived. And the iPad, for many people, turned out to be an even better remote, especially using iPeng for iPad,. It has a bigger screen, even more performance and it can show more content, enable feature (e.g. through iPeng's built-in browser) that don't work well or that are less capable on the iPhone/iPod and so we believe that actually over the time, iPeng for iPad has become the more capable App that is also being used longer and more frequently by those who own both Apps and devices.

iPeng on iPhone and iPod touch, however, is often being used as a player these days, especially on the road, but that's a feature you have to purchase as an addon. So as a reaction to this change in use and to the evolution of the capabilities we have decided for now to cut the price of iPeng for iPhone by 50%, iPeng for iPad stays the same as before.

Will it stay that way? I don't know. There are currently no plans for further price changes and also no guarantee that the price cut will be permanent, but this is where it stands now.

Have fun with it

More info is on http://penguinlovesmusic.com

[reniera]

In a separate thread, i was explaining that licensing of 3rd party apps were over-engineered and this is an other example (although in the case of ipeng, i find the pluging very valuable for a reasonable price).

When one need one page to explain how to purchase an addon to a 3rd party apps (while the base software packag is free ), well, i believe this might be unneededly complicated...

[pippin]

It's not a plugin but an iOS App and purchasing it is a single click of a button, I don't think anybody EVER found that difficult. It's what hundreds of millions of iPhone users do every day.
Purchasing the In-App-Purchase is also just two clicks and also not an issue for anybody.

The complicated thing has been getting a discount, something Apple doesn't support in the App Store (and actually even gave us a hard time initially because they considered it something we were not supposed to do).
Now it became simple, too. That's all this is about.

[garym]

In a separate thread, i was explaining that licensing of plugin is over-engineered and this is an other example (although in the case of ipeng, i find the pluging very valuable for a reasonable price).

When one need one page to explain how to purchase an addon to a plugin ( while the base software packag is free ), well, i believe this might be unneededly complicated...

Then don't buy it (or any extra you don't want or like) or write your own. Your complaint makes no sense???

[reniera]

Then don't buy it (or any extra you don't want or like) or write your own. Your complaint makes no sense???

I bougth them already. 2 License changes ago, if I remember well. You see, your post makes no sense too. If you don't like my posts, then don't read them.

[reniera]

It's not a plugin but an iOS App.

Exact, i corrected that.
I have ipeng for ipod with playback. I have ipeng for ipad and would have bought playback for that one too. The fact is that after reading your post with icloud enablement, restoring features on devices, ...i prefer to run away. Sorry, too complicated for me.

[pippin]

Exact, i corrected that.
I have ipeng for ipod with playback. I have ipeng for ipad and would have bought playback for that one too. The fact is that after reading your post with icloud enablement, restoring features on devices, ...i prefer to run away. Sorry, too complicated for me.

OK, what exactly is complicated?
ALL you need to do is enable iCloud on your iTingies. Done. No need to buy anything, restore anything or whatever. That's what the post says.

OK, you may have to wait a few minutes, too, iCloud isn't always fast.

If that's already too complicated, then I don't know.

Oh, and actually BUYING it again has always been simple: just buy it. Done.

[reniera]

OK, what exactly is complicated?
ALL you need to do is enable iCloud on your iTingies. Done. No need to buy anything, restore anything or whatever. That's what the post says.

OK, you may have to wait a few minutes, too, iCloud isn't always fast.

If that's already too complicated, then I don't know.

Oh, and actually BUYING it again has always been simple: just buy it. Done.

But if i activate icloud (let's assume i'm not paranoiac about giving apple access to all my stuffs), it copies my music on all devices already, so why would i need playback then ?

About a year ago, we discussed the possibility for ipeng to copy music from lms to ios. Any news from that ? That'd be lovely and a more acceptable alternative for everyone like me that don't want to go fully the apple way (or people who's employer does not allow it).

And of course, if i can still buy it a second time, then indeed, it simple.

[pippin]

But if i activate icloud (let's assume i'm not paranoiac about giving apple access to all my stuffs), it copies my music on all devices already, so why would i need playback then ?

a) no, it doesn't. Read up on iCloud. What you are talking about is iTunes in the Cloud which is a different product,... well, it's a an iCloud feature being sold separately. It requires iCloud but doesn't come with iCloud. Also, you might not have _all_ your music in iTunes and also it would not copy all of it onto your device but stream from, yes, iCloud....
b) iTunes in the Cloud is not free, iCloud is.
c) what I'm talking about is iCloud. iCloud is a free service that syncs settings and photos and data between your devices. Not music. You have to register once and enable it on you devices, it's just a switch.

I kind of understand if you are being paranoid about registering for stuff but you have to be aware that the price of being paranoid in this case is lack of simplicity. You can't expect people to send you stuff if you refuse to give them your address.

About a year ago, we discussed the possibility for ipeng to copy music from lms to ios. Any news from that ?

No. Apple doesn't let you just add stuff to the library on the device so it's complicated and I don't really see a demand for all of that work, yet. Nobody has asked for it for a long time. People keep asking for streaming from iPhone to a Squeezebox but not for syncing content to the iPhone. I suspect those who want to do this have a solution for it.

And of course, if i can still buy it a second time, then indeed, it simple.

Well, you said, you would want to buy it again if it was just simple:

...and would have bought playback for that one too.

[garym]

I bougth them already. 2 License changes ago, if I remember well. You see, your post makes no sense too. If you don't like my posts, then don't read them.

But I do like your posts. Your tortured logic gives me a smile. ;-)