Touch, NADM51, USB, EDO, Interface questions

[NoFlyZone]

Been awhile since I've visited the Squeezebox forum. Hi.

Please be patient with me as I'm not getting the picture regarding how the Touch interfaces with an outboard DAC and a computer.

To start with, I used to own (still do in fact) a Squeezebox 3 and a Transporter. I was familiar with Squeezecenter and like it very much. It worked which is way better than I can say with "other" software solutions in computer audio including iTunes which I dislike with a passion.

So, owning a Macbook pro and maybe later, a stripped down mini, but somewhat dependent upon iTunes miser, I'm looking for alternatives software. What was great when I get it running on the Mac solution is the IPAD remote interface because not only can the family use it, my 94 year old dad can actually find music through my library and select. Given his "Alzheimers" state of mind, that's been way cool when it works. The main goal is sound quality, to deliver as jitter free a stream as I can to my soon to arrive NAD M51 DAC.

I have a library in both lossless Apple, and FLAC. I have an Oppo BDP95 and have been using an external hard drive with my libraries. Hard drive is connected to Oppo via USB.

I'm told having an external hard drive via USB to Oppo will not add jitter because it does not deal with clocks. So, if that's true, one interface is to use the Oppo HDMI input feeding it with NAD HDMI output which is essentially an I2S implementation and use the very basic Oppo's interface to access music from the hard drive. From NAD I go balanced to my preamp and all is supposedly well.

Here's where I get really confused. EDO, the new SB app, utilizes the Touch to interface an outboard DAC with Squeezecenter? If I have a library stored on the MAC, this can be accessed through Squeezecenter, outputted from MAC through either USB or SPDIF without the need for an expensive interface such as Offramp or Audiophilia clocks to deal with jitter? This would be very cool as I would have a really nice remote interface to control my library with a really nice software suite from Logitech, and not the crappy iTunes interface.

Too good to be true huh?

Hope I spelled this out logically :\

[garym]

Been awhile since I've visited the Squeezebox forum. Hi.

Please be patient with me as I'm not getting the picture regarding how the Touch interfaces with an outboard DAC and a computer.

To start with, I used to own (still do in fact) a Squeezebox 3 and a Transporter. I was familiar with Squeezecenter and like it very much. It worked which is way better than I can say with "other" software solutions in computer audio including iTunes which I dislike with a passion.

So, owning a Macbook pro and maybe later, a stripped down mini, but somewhat dependent upon iTunes miser, I'm looking for alternatives software. What was great when I get it running on the Mac solution is the IPAD remote interface because not only can the family use it, my 94 year old dad can actually find music through my library and select. Given his "Alzheimers" state of mind, that's been way cool when it works. The main goal is sound quality, to deliver as jitter free a stream as I can to my soon to arrive NAD M51 DAC.

I have a library in both lossless Apple, and FLAC. I have an Oppo BDP95 and have been using an external hard drive with my libraries. Hard drive is connected to Oppo via USB.

I'm told having an external hard drive via USB to Oppo will not add jitter because it does not deal with clocks. So, if that's true, one interface is to use the Oppo HDMI input feeding it with NAD HDMI output which is essentially an I2S implementation and use the very basic Oppo's interface to access music from the hard drive. From NAD I go balanced to my preamp and all is supposedly well.

Here's where I get really confused. EDO, the new SB app, utilizes the Touch to interface an outboard DAC with Squeezecenter? If I have a library stored on the MAC, this can be accessed through Squeezecenter, outputted from MAC through either USB or SPDIF without the need for an expensive interface such as Offramp or Audiophilia clocks to deal with jitter? This would be very cool as I would have a really nice remote interface to control my library with a really nice software suite from Logitech, and not the crappy iTunes interface.

Too good to be true huh?

Hope I spelled this out logically :\

Pretty simple. You'll need to install Triode's EDO on the TOUCH (see thread below). Not sure, but you may need a more updated sever than SqueezeCenter (latest is called Logitech Media Server (LMS) and 7.7.2 is the latest version. It is quite stable. You can install this on your Mac or whatever computer/NAS you're using as a server holding the music. Once EDO installed on the TOUCH, you can use either the USB out of the TOUCH or coax out (S/PDIF). In either case, you can get 24/192 output if your DAC supports it. There are a few issues about USB out and the particular DAC and whether you need a hub inbetween, etc. Again, see the thread below for more info.

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...e+24%2F192+edo

[SBGK]

Been awhile since I've visited the Squeezebox forum. Hi.

Please be patient with me as I'm not getting the picture regarding how the Touch interfaces with an outboard DAC and a computer.

To start with, I used to own (still do in fact) a Squeezebox 3 and a Transporter. I was familiar with Squeezecenter and like it very much. It worked which is way better than I can say with "other" software solutions in computer audio including iTunes which I dislike with a passion.

So, owning a Macbook pro and maybe later, a stripped down mini, but somewhat dependent upon iTunes miser, I'm looking for alternatives software. What was great when I get it running on the Mac solution is the IPAD remote interface because not only can the family use it, my 94 year old dad can actually find music through my library and select. Given his "Alzheimers" state of mind, that's been way cool when it works. The main goal is sound quality, to deliver as jitter free a stream as I can to my soon to arrive NAD M51 DAC.

I have a library in both lossless Apple, and FLAC. I have an Oppo BDP95 and have been using an external hard drive with my libraries. Hard drive is connected to Oppo via USB.

I'm told having an external hard drive via USB to Oppo will not add jitter because it does not deal with clocks. So, if that's true, one interface is to use the Oppo HDMI input feeding it with NAD HDMI output which is essentially an I2S implementation and use the very basic Oppo's interface to access music from the hard drive. From NAD I go balanced to my preamp and all is supposedly well.

Here's where I get really confused. EDO, the new SB app, utilizes the Touch to interface an outboard DAC with Squeezecenter? If I have a library stored on the MAC, this can be accessed through Squeezecenter, outputted from MAC through either USB or SPDIF without the need for an expensive interface such as Offramp or Audiophilia clocks to deal with jitter? This would be very cool as I would have a really nice remote interface to control my library with a really nice software suite from Logitech, and not the crappy iTunes interface.

Too good to be true huh?

Hope I spelled this out logically :\

i have touch > usb > mf vlink 192 > aes/ebu > m51 - with careful choice of usb cable can sound v good.

think triode is working on fix for edo usb out to m51, but I am happy with mf vlink 192 over quality of m51 usb because it gives me balanced out into m51 aes/ebu.

various other forums rave about touch to m51 via offramp, others like the berkeley solution, others say buy a better dac.

[adamdea]

OP: Just connect your touch to your NAD m51 via coax (or perhaps toslink). There is no need to buy a usb-S/PSIF converter to connect a device with a S/PDIF out to a device with a S/PDIF in. If you want to use the touch usb out to M51 usb in I suggest following the relevant thread to see the best solution.