One music source, three LMS remotely connected via vpn. Possible?

[mcheck]

In the same vein as using Google Play/Drive or Music Locker as a single source of my music that can then be streamed via app/plugin (Music Locker, I dont think there is an app for Google Drive) I would like to do the same with one source of music.

I'm having a devil of a time keeping three remote LMSs in sync with my music (about 100G), and want to configure all the LMSs to use a single LMS or network drive as a source. All three locations can be VPNed together, or we could use http to serve the music.

Is this possible? How do I approach this in the best way? At my office, I would like to have the master set of music and run LMS and/or other server(s) to provide itself as a source to the other LMSs. Of course, I would still like to be able to browse and review artwork so for speed, some type of local library copy would be necessary. Or do I wait for some app/plugin that allows connections to amazon/google/dropbox etc?

Thanks,

Mike

[bernt]

In the same vein as using Google Play/Drive or Music Locker as a single source of my music that can then be streamed via app/plugin (Music Locker, I dont think there is an app for Google Drive) I would like to do the same with one source of music.

I'm having a devil of a time keeping three remote LMSs in sync with my music (about 100G), and want to configure all the LMSs to use a single LMS or network drive as a source. All three locations can be VPNed together, or we could use http to serve the music.

Is this possible? How do I approach this in the best way? At my office, I would like to have the master set of music and run LMS and/or other server(s) to provide itself as a source to the other LMSs. Of course, I would still like to be able to browse and review artwork so for speed, some type of local library copy would be necessary. Or do I wait for some app/plugin that allows connections to amazon/google/dropbox etc?

Thanks,

Mike

Vortexbox?

http://forum.vortexbox.org/documenta...x-using-rsync/

No need for vpn, just open the router for ssh.

[mcheck]

Vortexbox?

http://forum.vortexbox.org/documenta...x-using-rsync/

No need for vpn, just open the router for ssh.

Not sure that vortexbox fills the gap. It seems that it is a server for running LMS (SB), and I see how I could rsync a bunch of them (or other servers) together. But I'm wondering if there is software for LMS that would allow me to connect to a SINGLE source of music. So, in the instance of using vortexbox, my music would be on a vortexbox in my office. At my house, I'm running a Mac mini that would connect to the vortexbox as it's music source, allowing me to play all the music form my office on my SB3, SB Radio, and SB Duet (all in my house).

So: Only 1 music source, many remote LMSs and SBs. Still possible?

And yes, I can use ssh, but I haven't mastered the ability to open and manage ssh ports on demand.

Thanks, Mike

[garym]

Not sure that vortexbox fills the gap. It seems that it is a server for running LMS (SB), and I see how I could rsync a bunch of them (or other servers) together. But I'm wondering if there is software for LMS that would allow me to connect to a SINGLE source of music. So, in the instance of using vortexbox, my music would be on a vortexbox in my office. At my house, I'm running a Mac mini that would connect to the vortexbox as it's music source, allowing me to play all the music form my office on my SB3, SB Radio, and SB Duet (all in my house).

So: Only 1 music source, many remote LMSs and SBs. Still possible?

And yes, I can use ssh, but I haven't mastered the ability to open and manage ssh ports on demand.

Thanks, Mike

I haven't done this myself, but there are lots of users that have simply opened the correct ports on their router and made their LMS and music library available anywhere they are via internet streaming. But you seem to be asking for something a bit different. That is, having LOCAL copies of your music and local computers running LMS, but keeping all the music libraries synched. This could be done via the internet with some synching approach (e.g, rsync).

I don't do what you want exactly (because I don't want to bother accessing all my music via the internet at different locations). However, I do have my complete music library available (about 70,000 tracks, mostly FLAC) at 3 different locations (home, weekend place, and office). I have a vortexbox server at home and weekend place. At office, I simply use SqueezePlay (software SB player) as my player on my PC (with attached eSata drive holding music). Once set up, I don't find it troublesome to occasionally transfer files to each location to keep all up to date. I probably add a few CDs each week. I don't do anything overly sophisticated (transferring a few files I simply use DROPBOX and for a larger set of files, I put on a 1TB portable USB drive and then copy to the servers in each of the locations).

edit: it seems like what you really want is a single NAS holding all your music. Then run individual LMS at each location and for that LMS, point the music folder location back across the internet to the files on your NAS. This is just a matter of making your NAS holding files visible across the internet to your various instances of LMS. This is doable. For example, I have files on a READYNAS that I can access across the internet at work or anywhere I'm connected to internet with my laptop. But I'm not opening ports on router, I'm using some program for the ReadyNAS that allows this access (requires program on computer I'm using elsewhere to access readynas as well). I don't use this for music, but it does work for file access.

[toby10]

Isn't this what you want? http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.ph...cting_remotely

[banned for life]

In the same vein as using Google Play/Drive or Music Locker as a single source of my music that can then be streamed via app/plugin (Music Locker, I dont think there is an app for Google Drive) I would like to do the same with one source of music.

I'm having a devil of a time keeping three remote LMSs in sync with my music (about 100G), and want to configure all the LMSs to use a single LMS or network drive as a source. All three locations can be VPNed together, or we could use http to serve the music.

Is this possible? How do I approach this in the best way? At my office, I would like to have the master set of music and run LMS and/or other server(s) to provide itself as a source to the other LMSs. Of course, I would still like to be able to browse and review artwork so for speed, some type of local library copy would be necessary. Or do I wait for some app/plugin that allows connections to amazon/google/dropbox etc?

Thanks,

Mike

All connections to the LMS are the same if they are local or from the internet. The only important difference is that LMS can convert music that is locally lossless to MP3 when it's streamed to the internet players.

I'm not sure what you mean by three remote servers. Only one is needed. VPN and multiple servers is not needed. A single LMS at home can well serve remote players.

Of course, at your office, you could have another PC running LMS but the music access and artwork would be the same as though you had the office PC's connecting to your home LMS server.\

bfl

[mcheck]

edit: it seems like what you really want is a single NAS holding all your music. Then run individual LMS at each location and for that LMS, point the music folder location back across the internet to the files on your NAS. This is just a matter of making your NAS holding files visible across the internet to your various instances of LMS. This is doable. For example, I have files on a READYNAS that I can access across the internet at work or anywhere I'm connected to internet with my laptop. But I'm not opening ports on router, I'm using some program for the ReadyNAS that allows this access (requires program on computer I'm using elsewhere to access readynas as well). I don't use this for music, but it does work for file access.

Thanks for the thoughtful post, garym. This last part is what I'm looking for and now that you spell it out, it seems that I can most certainly have that now. I can make those NAS files accessible via the net (or the VPN), but then they have to be a file share mounted on the LOCAL LMS in order to appear local.

So now I have discovered that SqueezePlay has a "remote libraries" section under Networking. This seems to be an option under the VPN or with SSH where I simply connect SqueezePlay to the remote library at my office NAS, a ReadyNAS running LMS 7.7

So I wonder if LMS has an option for setting up 'remote libraries'. That way I could enter the ip address of my ssh'd server at my office and get it to show up for each LMS in each location? I guess the reason I _thought_ I needed LMS at each location was to provide radio streams, playlists, and local favorites. But perhaps not? So then the question may be, do I need LMS at each location at all? Maybe all I need is LMS at my office NAS, with my other locations' devices (SB3, Duets, etc) using that as the source?

I have only tried this with my laptop, running Squeezeplay and I have this question: when running an Internet Radio stream, like Radio Paradise, from this remote library connection, it is the stream still coming directly from Radio Paradise to me or going though the remote library first?

[mcheck]

All connections to the LMS are the same if they are local or from the internet. The only important difference is that LMS can convert music that is locally lossless to MP3 when it's streamed to the internet players.

I'm not sure what you mean by three remote servers. Only one is needed. VPN and multiple servers is not needed. A single LMS at home can well serve remote players.

Of course, at your office, you could have another PC running LMS but the music access and artwork would be the same as though you had the office PC's connecting to your home LMS server.\

bfl

Thanks bfl, this seems closer to what I was approaching with garym. What is the benefit of having an LMS at each location if I only want to have one set of music files?

In my case the one set of music files is at my office, on a ReadyNAS running LMS77 and serving a single SqueezePlayer pushed into a set of speakers. If I connect the house SB3, Duet and Radio to the office LMS, and sync them together, I can control them from an ipad with iPeng. When I play streaming radio at my house then, is it coming from the office LMS first, or coming directly from the stream origin (as I would hope)?

[garym]

Thanks bfl, this seems closer to what I was approaching with garym. What is the benefit of having an LMS at each location if I only want to have one set of music files?

In my case the one set of music files is at my office, on a ReadyNAS running LMS77 and serving a single SqueezePlayer pushed into a set of speakers. If I connect the house SB3, Duet and Radio to the office LMS, and sync them together, I can control them from an ipad with iPeng. When I play streaming radio at my house then, is it coming from the office LMS first, or coming directly from the stream origin (as I would hope)?

I think you're on the right track now. I can't actually help any further as I don't actually do any of this so have no specifics. Not sure about the streaming radio. I'd guess that it is coming directly from the stream origin, once connected. But not sure.

[mcheck]

Isn't this what you want? http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.ph...cting_remotely

Possibly, thanks. Investigating how this applies to connecting 3 LMSs together to use only one source of music.