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    Radio & server switching

    It seems that it is impossible to switch, on LST, between listening to PC based music via LMS and internet radio.

    The method to get from streaming music off an HD to listening to radio is (a) turn off the server (or /PC/NAS) (b) turn off LST (c) turn LST back on.

    There's no "switch" for going between the two on LST, indeed the My Apps folder disappears when using the server and the Favourites folder shows as Empty - until using my workround.

    This is far too clunky to be sensible so what am I missing?

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    I don't use a Touch, but I do use two Squeezebox Radios and a Squeezebox Classic. On the Classic, there's a menu item entitled mysqueezebox.com which switches the Squeezebox from LMS to the web service. LMS is still running throughout, and switching between the two sources is pretty easy.

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    Well I'm not an IT pro, but there is no need to "switch" at all if your local LMS server is still running. Everything that is available under mysb.com is also available through LMS. You want internet radio? Go through the internet radio menu. You want a Favorite? Go through the Favorites menu.

    If you are on mysb.com then you won't see any Favorites that you saved on LMS. And if you're on LMS then you should see both Favorites that you saved on LMS and Favorites on mysb.com (just follow the link that says "On mysqueezebox.com" -- that doesn't connect you to mysb.com, it only links to your Favorites list there).

    If you do want to switch between LMS and mysb.com (say, for example, you want to listen to Pandora or internet radio with your local LMS server off), then the default menu for dong so is a little buried. For LMS -> mysb, use Settings > Advanced > Networking > Switch to mysqueezebox.com. For mysb -> LMS, simply go to My Music on the home menu and you will be prompted to connect to your local server. If you think you are going to be switching a lot, then you can save some steps by putting the "Switch to mysqueezebox.com" item on your home menu, which is very customizable.

    Btw, no one calls it "LST" -- the usual names are Touch or SBT.

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    I believe the gotcha will be to actually configure the MySB account in the server's web interface under "Settings->MySqueezebox.com".

    If that's set correctly the problem is probably one of the server losing contact to MySB, here a server restart usually helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mardler View Post
    ........ so what am I missing?
    A properly setup system.

    Essentially there are three different categories of users in regards to switching between LMS and MySB.com ....
    1. No need nor desire to switch, use only LMS for convenience and added features & functions not offered on MySB.com
    2. Infrequent need of switching between both servers
    3. Frequent need to switch between both servers

    The vast majority of users are likely #1. If this is your desired usage then you need to fix your settings and/or network for this to function properly.
    The minority of users who fall into #2 use the "Switch to MySB.com" option in the Settings menu's.
    The further minority who want #3 move the "Switch to MySB.com" menu item to their Home menu.

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    "...the problem is probably one of the server losing contact to MySB." - either that or MySB going off line.

    Whatever, it happened again. Both LMS and MySB are up to date with internet station favourites. Switched off the PC and SB had no stations in Favourites (I'd been using LMS to update Music Folder) BUT this time it did ask if I wanted to switch server to MySB. I did and it all worked smoothly.

    No idea what the earlier glitch was but at least it proves I wasn't wrong; my guess is that MySB went off line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mardler View Post
    "...the problem is probably one of the server losing contact to MySB." - either that or MySB going off line.

    Whatever, it happened again. Both LMS and MySB are up to date with internet station favourites. Switched off the PC and SB had no stations in Favourites (I'd been using LMS to update Music Folder) BUT this time it did ask if I wanted to switch server to MySB. I did and it all worked smoothly.

    No idea what the earlier glitch was but at least it proves I wasn't wrong; my guess is that MySB went off line.
    good that it is working. the mysb.com servers are more troublesome historically in Europe (although fortunately, not too much lately). In the US, I've suffered from a down mysb.com only once in 5 years or so, other than an advanced announced "offline for maintenance" (and even that was only once). So the servers can go down and cause issues, but thankfully it is reasonably stable (excellent in my location).

    p.s. There are some times when SB can't reach mysb.com or internet radio, and often this requires a router reboot. Even if everything else is working on the network, the SB players/server may lose DNS and a reboot of the router restores everything. That's why many responses over the years to problems are (1) turn everything off, inlcuding router, (2) restart router, (3) restart computer with server, and (4) restart/plugin SB players. This was not your problem I know, but just for other readers of this thread, this info may be useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mardler View Post
    "...the problem is probably one of the server losing contact to MySB." - either that or MySB going off line.

    Whatever, it happened again. Both LMS and MySB are up to date with internet station favourites. Switched off the PC and SB had no stations in Favourites (I'd been using LMS to update Music Folder) BUT this time it did ask if I wanted to switch server to MySB. I did and it all worked smoothly.

    No idea what the earlier glitch was but at least it proves I wasn't wrong; my guess is that MySB went off line.
    Are you in the US or outside of the US? I can only speak about my use of MySB.com in the US (I don't connect to non-US MySB.com servers)....

    MySB.com going off line is always a possibility, but not very likely in the past week if you are on the US MySB servers.
    My Boom player streams 24/7 and is connected to MySB.com. When playing a stream the screen is blank (my customized setting). It only displays a screen when navigating the Boom's menu's or if it is "idle" (not currently playing).

    Therefore, if my Boom goes off line (MySB.com is down or not available) then I get a constant clock displayed. Or, if it goes off line but then reconnects on it's own, this is also an "idle" state, therefore the screen is on all the time (and nothing is playing). Both of these are clear indicators of MySB.com currently or recently being off line, and I have not seen this in a quite a while, certainly not in the last few weeks, and absolutely not a long term outtage.

    So my guess is that you had issues with LMS settings and/or a network issue where your server could not see the internet.

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