Wall mount?

[TheLastMan]

For those that hanker after a wall mount for the Touch, I noticed this picture on the Dabs web site.
Any idea what it is? There was no explanation on the site just this picture in the gallery.

[rgro]

For those that hanker after a wall mount for the Touch, I noticed this picture on the Dabs web site.
Any idea what it is? There was no explanation on the site just this picture in the gallery.

Doesn't quite look like the same thing, but one of the posters here has designed something that seems to perform the same function. So, if you're interested, see:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...sibly-for-sale!

[aubuti]

That is something that Logitech produced in small numbers (apparently), briefly floated a price of around US$50, and then abandoned. I received one during the Touch hardware beta testing, but lord knows where it is now. There are one or two threads with a series of pics showing what one of the Logitech employees did using the wall mount in his house, including using power-over-ethernet to get electricity to the Touch.

EDIT: Ah, here's the thread I was thinking of: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...all-Mount-Pics

[Mnyb]

That is something that Logitech produced in small numbers (apparently), briefly floated a price of around US$50, and then abandoned. I received one during the Touch hardware beta testing, but lord knows where it is now. There are one or two threads with a series of pics showing what one of the Logitech employees did using the wall mount in his house, including using power-over-ethernet to get electricity to the Touch.

EDIT: Ah, here's the thread I was thinking of: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...all-Mount-Pics

Was it not 100$ and we all had a laugh ?

[TheLastMan]

Was it not 100$ and we all had a laugh ?

Well looking at the forum post it is just a bit of injection moulded plastic!
The big cost is tooling up (creating the mould).

There are a few injection moulding estimators on the web. Using a US based company, and taking a pessimistic view that the part is deemed to be "complex" requiring a "very high precision" and "high gloss polish" then it would cost about $52,000 to tool up. So it really does depend on how many you think you could sell.

A short run of 1,000 would cost around $57 each but a run of 10,000 only about $10 each.

I have no idea about demand, but I think at most you would sell low single figures of thousands worldwide. My guess is that a stock of around 5,000 would probably be all Logitech needed which comes out at around $15 a pop. Now adding in a 50% markup for profit and to cover the risk you don't sell as many as you thought (meaning you would break even if you sold 3,500) that gives a wholesale price of $22.50. Add the usual distribution and retailers markup of around 100% you get to just under $50 a pop - less if you sold direct through the Logitech on-line channels.

However, if they have sold, say 100,000 Touches (not sure, just a pure guess) they could have put one in the box at an extra $5 cost. Personally I think that would have been their best policy.

As an after-market extra it would have been a risky call. The Touch is not part of an integrated multi-room system with wall mounted controllers, speakers, amps etc, so it would only really be popular with the DIY fraternity rather than professional installers who make up the bulk of buyers of this kind of part.

I reckon Logitech assumed they would not sell many more than 1,000 of these after-market, which is where I suspect the $100 figure comes from. So it really would have been a case of package it as a standard part or not bother. Clearly Logitech took the less brave decision!

[pippin]

Well, you also have to see that there is very limited use for this thing.

I am one of those who got a beta unit and I use it in my bathroom (there's a picture of the setup somewhere in the Touch photo thread) but the reason I could do that was that I completely re-built the bathroom when I installed it.
Retrofitting is VERY hard. You need to get all kind of cables to the place, you need to be able to get the power supply hidden within the wall and you need a massive hole for all the connectors. And even then, the Touch will protrude around an inch from the wall.
It may be easier in US houses with wooden walls or with a drywall, but if you've got a traditional brick or concrete wall, this thing is hard to install.

So effectively used volume will probably stay low.

[ftldny@gmail.com]

On 6/22/2012 6:26 AM, TheLastMan wrote:
> Well looking at the forum post it is just a bit of injection moulded
> plastic!
> The big cost is tooling up (creating the mould).

3D printing might be a better way to go. No startup costs, and
reasonable per-piece prices. Take a look at some of the items at
Shapeways for examples:

http://www.shapeways.com/gallery/gadgets?s=12

--
Bill

[trouty00]

Just had a load more made up of my custom mount if people are still looking.. See my sig