No controller - how to connect receiver to new network?

[johan73]

I have two SB receivers but lost both my controllers last year in a basement flooding.

Now, I have changed internet provider and wifi router. I therefore need to connect my receivers to a new SSID and password.

How can I do this without a controller?

Thanks,
Johan

[Mnyb]

I have two SB receivers but lost both my controllers last year in a basement flooding.

Now, I have changed internet provider and wifi router. I therefore need to connect my receivers to a new SSID and password.

How can I do this without a controller?

Thanks,
Johan

Search our forum Robin bowes comandline tool net udap or net::udap .

The only officially supported way are the controllers .

To use the net udap script you temporarily connect the players via Ethernet to set them up .

Does not squeeze commander on andriod do something similar , but I have no exact knowledge .

[johan73]

Search our forum Robin bowes comandline tool net udap or net::udap .

The only officially supported way are the controllers .

To use the net udap script you temporarily connect the players via Ethernet to set them up .

Does not squeeze commander on andriod do something similar , but I have no exact knowledge .

Thanks! The tool sounds more advanced than my tech skills, but I'll give it a try.

Will it work with Windows 7?

[Mnyb]

Thanks! The tool sounds more advanced than my tech skills, but I'll give it a try.

Will it work with Windows 7?

There may be an *.exe version around .

On the other hand are they not selling controllers cheap somewhere , ebay ? logitech ? some treads have mentioned good controller prices

[Mnyb]

I have two SB receivers but lost both my controllers last year in a basement flooding.

Now, I have changed internet provider and wifi router. I therefore need to connect my receivers to a new SSID and password.

How can I do this without a controller?

Thanks,
Johan

Thinking the other way around , why not change the SSID and password to be same as the old one ?

However that only works if you are using the same encryption method like WPA , if you are changing from WEP to WPA it won't work

[w3wilkes]

I've actually tried doing the dup SSID and security settings on a new router. Didn't work for me, ended up having to do a complete setup of the network and my Duet. If you want the .exe of the UDAP shell for Windows, here's the link;

http://slim2lirc.myown.mailcan.com/udap_shell_1_0_0.exe

Here's a copy of the best instructions I've found for using UDAP to set up a receiver without a controller;

WIRED INSTALL
First step, go to Start, Run, type CMD and hit enter
Once the command prompt window is up, type IPCONFIG and hit enter.
You should have something like this (I put in example numbers, you will need yours):

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

IP Address……………….111.222.333.444
Subnet Mask……………..255.255.255.0
Default Gateway…………555.666.777.888

Write these down and then we can move onto the steps. You can exit the CMD window at anytime by typing EXIT.
1) In the open command window go to the directory where the UDAP software is. In my case I unzipped it to the root directory so here were my steps. FYI cd.. moves you back one directory and cd/directory will move you into the sub-folder “directory”
a. Get to root directory: TYPE: cd.. <enter> cd.. <enter>
b. Goto UDAP directory TYPE: cd/branches_1.0.x-r129/branches/scripts <enter>
c. Once you are in the scripts directory you will need to start the Udap shell, do this by typing: udap_shell.pl
i. You will know you have the software started correctly when the prompt changes from C:\ to UDAP>

Now it is time to program the Squeezebox.

2) First step for me is to reset the SB to factory defaults. Hold the front button until the red light flashes fast. (it will flash slow first)
3) Now you need to “find” the Squeezebox. In this case the SB should either be connected to your router via a Cat cable or directly to your PC via a Cat cable. To have your PC find the SB, type DISCOVER at the prompt.
a. It may not find it right away if you are quick so try again. You will know when it finds it since there will be a lot more text that pops up instead of the two lines that occur when it doesn’t find it.
4) Once found you need to select which SB to configure. If you only have one on your network this will be easy, just type CONF 1
5) Type SET_INTERFACE=1 <enter>
6) SAVE_DATA <enter>
7) RESET <enter>

At this point the LED will turn blue. After it turns blue you will need to get the SB back into init mode which you do by holding the button until it slowly flashes red

Now we can configure your network:
8) type DISCOVER <enter>
9) type CONF 1 <enter>
10) type SET_SQUEEZECENTER_ADDRESS=111.222.333.444 <enter>
a. Don’t use 111.222.333.444 but instead use the address from above you wrote down
11) Type SAVE_DATA <enter>
12) Type RESET <enter>

Now you can download Squeezecenter and it should then run it, it should find your SB automatically.

Here is a summary of the steps once in the UDAP:

1. Factory reset SBR
2. Start udap_shell.pl and run these commands:

discover
conf 1
set interface=1
save_data
reset

3. Wait until LED turns blue, then put the SBR back in init mode (LED flashing red slowly):

discover
conf 1
set squeezecenter_address=<ip address>
save_data

* The LED should go white and the SBR should now be ready to use.
* If the LED flashes white rapidly, this is a firmware update.

WIRELESS INSTALL
Personally I’d first do it wired to make sure that everything works okay and then onto wireless.

You will now have to go to a computer that is running your wireless network and goto the CMD prompt and type IPCONFIG again. Write down the settings from above, but now also include the wireless ones.

They will look something like this:
Wireless Network Connection 2:
IP: 111.222.333.444
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 444.555.666.1

Also go to your router software and write down your SSID name and wireless channel. My wireless channel was 8 which my router labels as US, perhaps yours is the same. If not substitute yours below for where I have written 8. For my SSID name I have chosen mySSID, replace with yours. Lastly you will need your WEP key as well. Replace all of the 6’s with your WEP key.

Once you have these settings the steps are similar to above.

*note the set command can have as many set commands after it as you want. I set everything on one line from set all the way through the address*

1) Run the UDAP shell
2) Type these commands
discover
conf 1
set interface=0 lan_ip_mode=0 lan_gateway=192.168.106.1 lan_network_address=111.222.333.444 lan_subnet_mask=255.255.255.0 primary_dns=444.555.666.1 wireless_SSID=mySSID wireless_wep_on=1 wireless_keylen=1 wireless_mode=0 wireless_region_id=14 wireless_wep_key_0=66666666666666666666666666 wireless_channel=11 squeezecenter_address=111.222.333.444
save_data
reset

If you are using the more secure WPA this method has been outlined. (I haven’t tested it yet, but will later and update the thread)

WPA 1:

set wireless_SSID=MySSID wireless_mode=0 wireless_region_id=14 wireless_wpa_on=1 wireless_wpa_mode=1 wireless_wpa_psk="Top Secret!"

WPA 2, TKIP+AES:

set wireless_SSID=MySSID wireless_mode=0 wireless_region_id=14 wireless_wpa_on=1 wireless_wpa_mode=2 wireless_wpa_cipher=3 wireless_wpa_psk="Top Secret!"

And the real install instructions here:
http://projects.robinbowes.com/Net-U...SetupProcedure

[johan73]

Mnyb and w3wilkes, thanks for the detailed instructions. I'll try it out.

I'm changing from WEP to WPA, so duplicating network name and password won't work. Good idea, though.

[Rich]

There is another way to configure your receiver if you have an android phone and that's by using SqueezeConfig written by the same developer as the excellent Squeezecommander. You can get the apk from here http://www.squeezecommander.com/trac/SqueezeConfig or just search for SqueezeConfig.

[johan73]

Tried the Net UDAP and it worked just fine! Opened the .exe file and then entered these prompts:

discover
conf 1
set interface=0 wireless_mode=0 wireless_region_id=14 wireless_SSID=MySSID wireless_wpa_on=1 wireless_wpa_mode=2 wireless_wpa_cipher=3 wireless_wpa_psk="Top Secret!" lan_ip_mode=1 squeezecenter_address=192.168.1.150
save_data
reset

All described here http://projects.robinbowes.com/Net-U...GettingStarted and here http://projects.robinbowes.com/Net-U...ki/SampleUsage

Great stuff.

[johan73]

Hmmm. After having connected my receivers to the network via Net-udap, I'm now facing a new problem:

The ip-address of my logitech media server changes, e.g. from 192.168.1.11 to 192.168.1.8.

This means that my receivers loose connection.

I can of course run the Net-udap set-up again, but rather annoying if I have to do that constantly.

Any way to stop the server ip address from changing?

Or to enable the receivers to automatically find the server even if it's ip-address changes?

Thanks.