Seeking the BEST S/PDIF or USB Squeezebox! Transport, Touch or receiver/duet? Mods?

[Jeff Flowerday]

Come on. We are again getting off topic into theoretical arguments here!

What you talking about, my whole post is theoretical...

[garym]

Jeff's point is not theoretical. It is actually very specifically practical based on engineering facts.

[Jeff Flowerday]

Jeff's point is not theoretical. It is actually very specifically practical based on engineering facts.

[adamdea]

Come on. We are again getting off topic into theoretical arguments here!

So what you really want is someone to tell you that they have a special transport which causes a night and day improvement on any dac connected, and can be guaranteed to do the same to yours.

I believe the word for such a person is "Salesman", but perhaps an "enthusiast" will do. We have several of those around here, although curiously when asked to enthuse they seem to go all shy.
Have you tried SBGK's plastic sandwich box and tin foil mod? Apparently it's great.

[SBGK]

SBGK why don't you do the following:

Introduce a quality Asynchronous USB to SPDIF converter that is compatible with the EDO applet to your system. You'll basically be taking all these supposed issues with your server and touch completely out of the picture.

Asynchronous means it won't matter what the touch is doing, the data will get delivered via USB as needed and the device will completely reclock the data prior to sending it to your DAC. If there are any issues with USB data delivery to the device, the audio will kick out, no second guessing. If there is audio it's been perfectly reclocked.

Galvanized isolation at the USB port leaves the ground plane noise that might be created by the touch at the touch.

They come in true 75 ohm BNC and RCA format.

There are many options, some even have lower stock jitter numbers than the touch. Just have to make sure they are standard Class 2 USB Audio devices and work with linux natively.


You could then take your Touch and unwrap it from it's tinfoil, remove it from the sandwich container, turn the screen back on, put it back togethor. Can you imagine? You could un-castrate your server and let it do other things.

Best of all you can just listen to the music and not be willy nilly changing random parameters all day long.



Just a suggestion, for your sanity and maybe just a little bit of ours.

well, one reason is that I would have to spend $2000 on an Empirical Audio offramp to better the sound I have with the settings I have with the Touch. As you have never tried my settings I presume you are speaking from ignorance and making a cheap jibe to get a quick laugh from your cotterie.

So Jeff, why the need for personal attacks on my efforts to improve the sound of the Touch ?

[SBGK]

well, one reason is that I would have to spend $2000 on an Empirical Audio offramp to better the sound I have with the settings I have with the Touch. As you have never tried my settings I presume you are speaking from ignorance and making a cheap jibe to get a quick laugh from your cotterie.

So Jeff, why the need for personal attacks on my efforts to improve the sound of the Touch ?

NEW RULES: RE:Behavior in this discussion area

All,

As this discussion area resulted in the highest number of threads that devolve from intelligent discussions into personal flame wars, we're going to start living by some stricter rules here.

Any personal attacks against another forum member will now result in a temporary ban on the forum. That will be your first and only warning.

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[totoro]

NEW RULES: RE:Behavior in this discussion area

All,

As this discussion area resulted in the highest number of threads that devolve from intelligent discussions into personal flame wars, we're going to start living by some stricter rules here.

Any personal attacks against another forum member will now result in a temporary ban on the forum. That will be your first and only warning.

If any member who has had their warning again resorts to further personal attacks they will be banned permanently from this forum.

NOTE: retaliating against a personal attack with another personal attack will also get you banned. Please report the poster instead, and they will be dealt with.

Are you the owner/moderator of this forum now? Under what authority are you making this announcement?

[mlsstl]

NEW RULES: RE:Behavior in this discussion area

All,

As this discussion area resulted in the highest number of threads that devolve from intelligent discussions into personal flame wars, we're going to start living by some stricter rules here.

Any personal attacks against another forum member will now result in a temporary ban on the forum. That will be your first and only warning.

If any member who has had their warning again resorts to further personal attacks they will be banned permanently from this forum.

NOTE: retaliating against a personal attack with another personal attack will also get you banned. Please report the poster instead, and they will be dealt with.

I didn't realize you were forum staff. Is this new? You're not currently listed as one.

[garym]

But you just violated these rules with a personal attack on Jeff. He actually gave you good advice on USB. One could only interpret his advice as a personal attack if you are embarrassed by your foil wrapped plastic sandwich box. But you posted the pictures yourself so surely you are not embarrassed.

[totoro]

But you just violated these rules with a personal attack on Jeff. He actually gave you good advice on USB. One could only interpret his advice as a personal attack if you are embarrassed by your foil wrapped plastic sandwich box. But you posted the pictures yourself so surely you are not embarrassed.

Apparently, challenging anyone's bald assertions on the value of audio homeopathy is a "personal attack", even if done without name calling, but ad hominems, strawmen, arguments by assertion, and actual name calling are ok.

Those who have been on this board a long time will remember that there used to be some physicists and ees with graduate degrees who posted here. That all stopped due to the onslaught of foolery involving outsider physics, continental philosophy poseurism, etc.