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    Senior Member erland's Avatar
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    What is missing from your Squeezebox experience ?

    To me it feels like my Squeezebox experience hasn't really evolved much during the last year.

    When thinking back, I remember things like:
    - SqueezePad announcement
    - iPeng for iPad announcement
    - Triode's Spotify plugin announcement

    All these are things that truly made big changes to how I use my Squeezebox system to discover and listen to music, but all are older than a year.
    If I think about Logitech provided features I need to go back to the Radio and Touch releases to find something that really made a big difference for myself.

    But what's the next big thing we would like to be added or changed in the future, either through Logitech or third party developers ?

    I don't want a list of ideas which you think someone else wants, I want a list of ideas which YOU want.

    I don't want a list of bugs to be fixed because that's obviously something that needs to be done, so it doesn't have to be discussed, I like ideas of things that would make big changes to your Squeezebox experience, it might be ideas of new software features or ideas of new hardware, it might related to music listening or the earlier steps of ripping and tagging music to get it into your library.

    The purpose of this thread is mainly to give existing and new third party developers ideas of things which people want, since Logitech developers are present on this forum there is also a chance that someone from Logitech will spot the thread and pickup some excellent ideas for new features.

    So do you have any ideas for things that would really make a big difference for your Squeezebox experience ?
    Could be either small things or big things, but let's focus on things that will have a significant impact on your Squeezebox experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erland View Post
    To me it feels like my Squeezebox experience hasn't really evolved much during the last year.

    I don't want a list of ideas which you think someone else wants, I want a list of ideas which YOU want.

    I don't want a list of bugs to be fixed because that's obviously something that needs to be done, so it doesn't have to be discussed, I like ideas of things that would make big changes to your Squeezebox experience, it might be ideas of new software features or ideas of new hardware, it might related to music listening or the earlier steps of ripping and tagging music to get it into your library.
    I understand your point of view, and under normal circumstances I would agree. At this stage though I feel that it is pointless to think about extra functionality while Logitech hasn't been able to deliver even one (reasonably) bug-free firmware version for my two Squeezebox radios. Introducing new features, while even the most basic functions aren't reliable, is asking for (even more) trouble.

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    My experience with squeezebox degraded when you Erland decided your plugins (and the ones of sugarcube) become commercial and payable. Thanks to that change, i then realised lms is in fact very stable with no 3P plugins, thank you and that i can recover a lot of free time by sticking to the official (stable) version with no tweaking/plugins. Lms Alone does what it's supposed to do and does it very well. As already explained, i'd love track rating, user profiles and an improvement/replacement of musicip to be integrated by Logitech in the core product.

    I really wonder what is the sense and motivation of your post and why this initiative comes from you and not from Logitech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reniera View Post
    I really wonder what is the sense and motivation of your post and why this initiative comes from you and not from Logitech.
    Couldn't be much clearer:

    The purpose of this thread is mainly to give existing and new third party developers ideas of things which people want, since Logitech developers are present on this forum there is also a chance that someone from Logitech will spot the thread and pickup some excellent ideas for new features.

    In other words, ideas for enhancements to SB software that 3rd party developers are capable of delivering, with or without input from Logitech, which has its own set of priorities. If Logitech happens to pick up on some of the ideas, consider it a bonus.

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    Still my number 1: A working SoundCloud plugin.

    There is one, but since it doesn't process the link authorization (or re-authorization) correctly it doesn't work any better than iPeng does out of the box meaning you can play a track but not store it in a playlist or a favorite.
    Also, it's browsing is a bit broken. So it's quite useless for me, it's still easier to just use iPeng but I would like to not only preview a track (or play once) but also to keep it in my Squeezebox ecosystem afterwards
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    1st of all I will say I am happy w/ SBS 7.6 and I think Erland's dedication to enhancing our musical experience should be praised.

    For me:
    #1: System actions in the playlist.
    Like setting volume up/down before/after a song; playing a radio stream for X minutes then switch to another source; etc.

    #2: Proxying the local library via mySB.com (or whatever.com)
    On the move, the only protocol I am sure to have access to is HTTP on port 80. All the rest is likely to be filtered. I don't want to open this kind of gate on my LAN. But SBS could connect to something like mysb.com and allow access to local files

    #3: Power management integration at OS level.
    Make PM-aware the native win/mac os SBS dashboards so that the software can fight against a sleep request when playing, and disconnect/reconnect players at shutdown-sleep/boot-wake time. Try to cook something on linux, too. I believe a dummy usb driver would receive/handle the PM events on any reasonable platform.
    (I know srvPowerControl exists; it does more than fit the bill on a dedicated server. But it doesn't have OS-level integration so it does not work perfect on multi-purpose machines like a desktop.)

    #4: A not dead MIP-like system.
    I use MIP and it kind of works. But it has its quirks and won't run on anything other than i386 (AFAIK)

    #5: Quality (which means authorized I suppose) art and metadata.
    I like discogs a lot, but really I am spending too much time on that site.
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    missing a true audiophile option ie stripped down firmware etc so that all extraneous processes etc can be switched off and the Touch can reach it's true potential.

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    Simple for me I guess...

    1. When you add an album to library in Triodes spotify plugin it also goes in under artist or indeed goes in the main album list perhaps. This would help search or select by artist

    2. When streaming spotify to lose the occasional hangs which almost always occur at the end of a track as the next one fails to play

    3. Bombproof radio alarm feed of BBC R5 via mysb.com

    Still an awesome system though, even with it's foibles or 'features' as I like to call them!
    2 Booms, 1 radio, a touch and an SB3...think that's enough?

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    Enhance the bandcamp plugin so that you can shop music and download within the system .
    ( I could have my paypal account stored in the plugin settings ). Downloads go to a dedicated folder unzips and scan into the dB .

    Any other kind of integrated shop for lossles music ( I exemplified with bandcamp as I know of it's existence and it looks realistic to implement )

    And yes an official music ip replacement please , so that we finally can have smart playlists .

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    Quote Originally Posted by epoch1970 View Post

    #2: Proxying the local library via mySB.com (or whatever.com)
    On the move, the only protocol I am sure to have access to is HTTP on port 80. All the rest is likely to be filtered. I don't want to open this kind of gate on my LAN. But SBS could connect to something like mysb.com and allow access to local files
    +1

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