New SBT person old Audiophile

[billybeek]

I figured this is the best place to post this
Is ther anywhere I can find the best sound quality settings for the Touch?

[SuperQ]

You've found them. There's nothing you really need to change. Sorry to disappoint the Audiophile tweaker in you.

[garym]

I figured this is the best place to post this
Is ther anywhere I can find the best sound quality settings for the Touch?

If you have the urge to improve, a good DAC can bring improvement.

[billybeek]

Thanx Super thats a great answer but belive it or not I find Wav rips played thru the touch a bit soft at the top
I am using ML Vistas at the moment & ws wonderin how to get some tizz back

[SuperQ]

You could try Inguz room correction. Or buy a different DAC. Maybe a Benchmark DAC-1. http://www.benchmarkmedia.com/dac/dac1-series-overview

Or if if you want my honest opinion, get better speakers. I think ML sound like shit. But that's an opinion on speaker voice not what you get from the DAC in the Touch.

[billybeek]

Curious what do you use dynamics? what are they....
Thanx for the reply

[eduardoo]

I figured this is the best place to post this
Is ther anywhere I can find the best sound quality settings for the Touch?

Here are the few things I did that I found useful:

1. Use an external DAC (I am using an Esoteric K-03)
2. Get a nice linear power supply (not night and day, but useful)
3. Install the new 192k app from Triode
4. Install Soundcheck's TT3.0 (You lose a lot of the convenience (like screen, etc), but it makes the SBT a simpler and more dedicated machine)
5. Use wired ethernet (or if you must use wifi (like me), use an external wireless router configured to client mode to give you a wired connection from there as a bridge. It may be easier to locate the router to where reception is good, and a wireless N router is probably more reliable than the built in G receiver, particularly when you play stuff like 192k. You also possibly relieve the SBT of some load and RF)
6. Play with vibration damping/draining. The little plastic box can use this. I have mine blu-tacked to a 3mm brass plate (damped with Fo.Q tape) with spikes underneath.

With the above, my SBT is doing fine in my relatively high-end system (Esoteric, Linn, Accuphase, Wilson) and it is definitely beyond good value.

Have fun!

[Mnyb]

If you have the urge to improve, a good DAC can bring improvement.

Extrernal DAC is the way to go Touch itself is a little round round soft, lacks an iota of resolution and openess and could have more low end impacts (imo) but this is a bit exagerated ,it is very good for the money and actually very very close to the best stuff, but sometimes even these small things gets to you .

I've always used it with my meridianG68J processor as digital transport and still do ( but nowadays with digital speakers ) .

If you want to be practical use FLAC files instead of WAV ( lossles is lossles and yes it is lossles) or alac or aiff if you under gunpoint to use iTunes , if you read otherwise in for example T.A.S it is utter b*ll*cks

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...computer+audio

Btw unless you have messed with the file types setting on your Touch you are already listening to flac as it is the default to transcode WAV to FLAC to conserve bandwidth .

I use wired Ethernet ,not out of sound-quality, but it simply works better ,the Squeezebox is by design not sensitive to network conditions of any kind until it's so bad that it runs out off buffer , then it is obvious.
Or if the network is so choppy that control gets sluggish .
However 24/96 streaming could tax it networks capability under less than perfect conditions (as in my home with 14 competing networks around ) so wired is fuzz free.

Further it is not at all sensitive to what kind of server machine you are using as it is independent of whatever goes for soundcard and sound drivers on the server PC/NAS/Thing .
Do not believe anyone stating otherwise as they obviulsy don't understand how things work , it all ends up in the player buffer anyway.

The best server tweak is to move it out of the listening room (it's a network player right ) next best is to use something you are familiar with and can maintain fuzz free ,unless you want another hobby and run a small linux server which is fast and effective and some fun LMS actually runs much faster on Linux and a small gui less server OS is very fast nimble and could be used on quite slow hardware. .
The simplest of all is the run the server on your normal desktop/laptop for starters untill you find out another solution.

Do wire the server to the network , historically having the server as wifi can be a bit fragile (especially if you do other stuff with the PC )

[billybeek]

Here are the few things I did that I found useful:

1. Use an external DAC (I am using an Esoteric K-03)
2. Get a nice linear power supply (not night and day, but useful)
3. Install the new 192k app from Triode
4. Install Soundcheck's TT3.0 (You lose a lot of the convenience (like screen, etc), but it makes the SBT a simpler and more dedicated machine)
5. Use wired ethernet (or if you must use wifi (like me), use an external wireless router configured to client mode to give you a wired connection from there as a bridge. It may be easier to locate the router to where reception is good, and a wireless N router is probably more reliable than the built in G receiver, particularly when you play stuff like 192k. You also possibly relieve the SBT of some load and RF)
6. Play with vibration damping/draining. The little plastic box can use this. I have mine blu-tacked to a 3mm brass plate (damped with Fo.Q tape) with spikes underneath.

With the above, my SBT is doing fine in my relatively high-end system (Esoteric, Linn, Accuphase, Wilson) and it is definitely beyond good value.

Have fun!

Thanx Eduardoo

[billybeek]

Extrernal DAC is the way to go Touch itself is a little round round soft, lacks an iota of resolution and openess and could have more low end impacts (imo) but this is a bit exagerated ,it is very good for the money and actually very very close to the best stuff, but sometimes even these small things gets to you .

I've always used it with my meridianG68J processor as digital transport and still do ( but nowadays with digital speakers ) .

If you want to be practical use FLAC files instead of WAV ( lossles is lossles and yes it is lossles) or alac or aiff if you under gunpoint to use iTunes , if you read otherwise in for example T.A.S it is utter b*ll*cks

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...computer+audio

Btw unless you have messed with the file types setting on your Touch you are already listening to flac as it is the default to transcode WAV to FLAC to conserve bandwidth .

I use wired Ethernet ,not out of sound-quality, but it simply works better ,the Squeezebox is by design not sensitive to network conditions of any kind until it's so bad that it runs out off buffer , then it is obvious.
Or if the network is so choppy that control gets sluggish .
However 24/96 streaming could tax it networks capability under less than perfect conditions (as in my home with 14 competing networks around ) so wired is fuzz free.

Further it is not at all sensitive to what kind of server machine you are using as it is independent of whatever goes for soundcard and sound drivers on the server PC/NAS/Thing .
Do not believe anyone stating otherwise as they obviulsy don't understand how things work , it all ends up in the player buffer anyway.

The best server tweak is to move it out of the listening room (it's a network player right ) next best is to use something you are familiar with and can maintain fuzz free ,unless you want another hobby and run a small linux server which is fast and effective and some fun LMS actually runs much faster on Linux and a small gui less server OS is very fast nimble and could be used on quite slow hardware. .
The simplest of all is the run the server on your normal desktop/laptop for starters untill you find out another solution.

Do wire the server to the network , historically having the server as wifi can be a bit fragile (especially if you do other stuff with the PC )

Thanx Mnyb