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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOctavist View Post
    what the max size you would reccomend?

    500x500 just to be safe?? what is "large"?
    I'm not really sure actually I've had squeezepad crash with some 2000*2000 art ( but it might have been fixed in an upgrade )
    Funny enough the touch itself is ok with large art provided the scaling during scan worked fine .

    I try to get 600 to 1000px nowadays my older rips have 300*300 which is fine if you got nothing but a controller radio or touch..

    I *think* 1000x1000 is safe possibly bigger would work to .

    A thing one should be aware of with embedded art is that some tools migth not handle it to well .

    I converted an alac album with embedded art to FLAC with ubuntu's file converter , the artwork tag broke badly I fixed it with puddle tag .
    But this could be a corner case alac on ubuntu :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOctavist View Post
    what the max size you would reccomend?

    500x500 just to be safe?? what is "large"?
    I try to find 1000x1000 (saved as cover.jpg in each album directory). No problems with my setup (see signature).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOctavist View Post
    what the max size you would reccomend?

    500x500 just to be safe?? what is "large"?
    I store all the cover art as a cover.jpg file in the same folder/directory as the flac files. Rather than go by pixel size I go by file size and keep all the cover.jpg files under one MB. I try to get the largest image (in pixels) I can find/scan that is under one MB since there are many plugins and third party programs which can display larger images than the SB Touch displays. For example both Moose and Muso can display full screen artwork when running on either a laptop or desktop computer. I consider 1500X1500 to be good size and hopefully somewhat future proof.
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    I embed my artwork into each flac file, and also have one for the folder itself. In both cases I always go for 500 x 500 as my size.
    I use Album art exchange, or scan the covers myself. To do the resizing, I use the very good and free, VSO Image resizer to do this. I keep all artwork to between better than 90KB but below or at 100KB as a max.
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    I embed the art in each FLAC file so that I'll have the art in the MP3 mirrored files for portable ipod use.

    I notice that it takes a really long time to write the covers to the files.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zowie View Post
    I embed the art in each FLAC file so that I'll have the art in the MP3 mirrored files for portable ipod use.

    I notice that it takes a really long time to write the covers to the files.
    Several good FLAC to MP3 converters will happily pick up a folder.jpg or cover.jpg file from the FLAC folder and embed it in the MP3 file. I know that dBpoweramp Batch Converter will do this, and I think the latest version of Robin Bowes' flac2mp3.pl script will as well. I don't know about foobar2k on this point, but I would be surprised if it didn't have the same option as well.

    Also, if you embed the art at the time of encoding the file (FLAC or MP3, or anything else) the incremental time probably isn't nearly as long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aubuti View Post
    Several good FLAC to MP3 converters will happily pick up a folder.jpg or cover.jpg file from the FLAC folder and embed it in the MP3 file. I know that dBpoweramp Batch Converter will do this, and I think the latest version of Robin Bowes' flac2mp3.pl script will as well. I don't know about foobar2k on this point, but I would be surprised if it didn't have the same option as well.

    Also, if you embed the art at the time of encoding the file (FLAC or MP3, or anything else) the incremental time probably isn't nearly as long.
    When I rip with dBpower amp I embed at the time of encoding to flac. But when I let vortexbox to the rip, I always have to go back in to fix the art (and usually other things too) and that's REAL slow. So maybe I'll start embedding in the mirrored mp3s only. Even if I do it disc by disc it'll probably be faster.

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    I suppose when you embed ex post the operation takes a long time because it is rewriting each and every file into which you are embedding album art. With typical FLAC file sizes of 30-60MB that takes some time. And if you're doing it over the network to the Vortexbox it takes even longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aubuti View Post
    I suppose when you embed ex post the operation takes a long time because it is rewriting each and every file into which you are embedding album art.
    Oh. That would explain it.

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