Hi,
I have no squeezebox device yet, which device should you buy to get the best sound when i connect it to my amplifier? I want to use my iPad controlling the device.
Anders
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Thread: Which Squeezebox?
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2012-03-24, 02:20 #1Junior Member
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Which Squeezebox?
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2012-03-24, 03:02 #2
SqueezeBox Touch
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2012-03-24, 03:22 #3
Another option
A used Transporter or a new Transporter SE
John Marshall
SqueezeCenter 7.3.4 running on a DIY PC, Windows 7 64 bit o.s., with Inguz Audio EQ/DRC. (1) Transporter, & (4) Booms connected through a Linksys WRT54gs router and Linksys WAP54g access point. Using an iPad with both SqueezePad & iPeng for controllers. Transporter => Rotel RC1070 preamp => Rotel RB1080 2 channel amp => Bowers & Wilkins 805 Speakers.
Headphone setup: Transporter => Woo Audio WA22 balanced headphone amp => Sennheiser HD800 headphones.
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2012-03-24, 06:39 #4Senior Member
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I second the Touch. Have 2 and love them.
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2012-03-24, 09:13 #5
Without knowing what exactly equipment you will connecting the Squeezebox device to it is difficult to give a reasonable recommendation. If you have some very expensive high end audio equipment then the Transporter might be the way to go, however if you somewhat less expensive equipment than the Touch would be the way to go.
At present the main difference in audio quality between the Transporter and the Touch is the better DAC and balanced outputs of the Transporter. If you will not be using the built in DAC, i.e. connecting the Squeezebox device to an external DAC or a home theater receiver with a DAC, then by all means get the Touch and save yourself quite a bit of money.
I have a Transporter and a Touch and can say that the sound quality differences between the two pretty much come down to the balanced analog outputs of the Transporter being slightly better than the RCA analog outputs of the Touch. And even then the differences are not that great. Yes the Touch is that good.Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. & sub
Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Linn sub
Computer Rm: Touch-Headroom Desktop w/DAC-Aragon amp-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Energy sub
Bedroom: Touch-HR Desktop w/DAC-Audio Refinement amp-Energy Veritas 2.0
Guest Rm: Duet-Sony soundbar
Garage: SB3-JVC compact system
Controls: iPeng; SB Controller; Moose & Muso
Server: SBS on dedicated windows 7 computer w/2 Drobos
Last.fm
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2012-03-24, 09:30 #6
I agree with ralph, but also look at where you want to be in the future.
Slim Device Transporter wirelessly connected
Pioneer Elite VSX-81TX Optimus LS3's
2nd SqueezeBox 3 Wirelessly connected (Bedroom)
Pioneer VSX 520K Optimus LX5's
3rd SqueezeBox 3 Wirelessly connected (MediaRoom)
Pioneer VSX 510 Optimus LX5's
4th Squeezebox Touch Wirelessly connected (livingroom)
Integra ADM 2.1 Teac MKII EQ Fluance SX
Server (In garage)
running on P4 3.0 GHz 2 gig ram
Windows XP (Sp3)
350 Xternal gigHD
Verizon Fios wireless router w/HG antana
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2012-03-24, 09:43 #7
The future
If future proofing one's purchase is a major concern then the Touch is the better choice because using the digital outputs one can then upgrade to almost any external DAC, even one with balanced analog outputs, or upgrade to almost any home theater receiver. Mind you, I'm not knocking the Transporter, it's just that the Touch is a more "future proof" device.
Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. & sub
Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Linn sub
Computer Rm: Touch-Headroom Desktop w/DAC-Aragon amp-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Energy sub
Bedroom: Touch-HR Desktop w/DAC-Audio Refinement amp-Energy Veritas 2.0
Guest Rm: Duet-Sony soundbar
Garage: SB3-JVC compact system
Controls: iPeng; SB Controller; Moose & Muso
Server: SBS on dedicated windows 7 computer w/2 Drobos
Last.fm
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2012-03-24, 11:15 #8Music Room:
Marantz TT 15S1, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge->Conrad Johnson Motif phono preamp->
Oppo BDP-83 Universal Player->
Vortexbox Appliance->Actiontec Router->DLink Bridge->Ethernet->Squeezebox Touch/EDO->Toslink->CIA PS->DSPeaker Antimode Dual Core EQ/DAC->
REL T1 Sub
Adcom GFP-750 preamp->Music Reference RM-200 Mk II amp-> Martin Logan SL3 speakers
Bedroom:
Squeezebox Touch (analog out)->Little Dot Mk III amp->AKG K701 headphones
Treadmill:
iPad/SqueezePad->Noontec Zoro headphones
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2012-03-24, 11:56 #9
Good but not "high end"
All true but since this is the Audiophile section of the forum we must mention all the things that are not "high end" about the Touch.
1) It is made of plastic rather than machined from one solid piece of aircraft grade aluminum.
2) It has a simple wall wart power supply instead of a super duper, machined from one solid piece of aircraft grade aluminum, linear power supply.
3) While it has a USB input it does not have a USB output (neither asynchronous or synchronous), which is rapidly making the Touch a non-starter for most of the high end audio press.
4) It features bit perfect playback of digital audio files in almost all common formats (mp3, wav, flac, etc.) with bit depths and sampling rates up to and including 24 bit and 88.2/96 kHz. It does not support playback of 32bit / 176.4, 352.8, 192 or 384 kHz files without down-sampling to 24/88.2 or 96 kHz - thus making the Touch a non-starter for most of the high end audio press.
5) The Touch can stream almost all internet radio and other audio streams which means that one can listen to the Touch in the background while writing and editing one's review a music streaming device from an established high end audio manufacturer which is machined from one solid piece of aircraft grade aluminum and features a super duper, machined from one solid piece of aircraft grade aluminum, linear power supply, an asynchronous USB output and full support for playback of 32bit / 176.4, 352.8, 192 or 384 kHz files without down-sampling.
6) The Touch also features very easy setup which does not require that the CEO of Logitech come to your home to assist you with the setup. Again just one more thing that makes the Touch a non-starter for most of the high end audio press.
Otherwise the Touch is a really good little audio device
Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. & sub
Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Linn sub
Computer Rm: Touch-Headroom Desktop w/DAC-Aragon amp-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Energy sub
Bedroom: Touch-HR Desktop w/DAC-Audio Refinement amp-Energy Veritas 2.0
Guest Rm: Duet-Sony soundbar
Garage: SB3-JVC compact system
Controls: iPeng; SB Controller; Moose & Muso
Server: SBS on dedicated windows 7 computer w/2 Drobos
Last.fm
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2012-03-24, 21:09 #10Senior Member
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the touch!
it performs excellently and measures superbly taboot.
the choice is clearVortexbox>SBT(stock)>>Forssell MDAC-2>>>Klein and Hummell 0300D
Sota Sapphire/Lyra Kleos>>Bespoke Valve Phono Stage>>Mastersound Due Venti>>Link Audio K100

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