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    192kHz considered harmful

    Monty at Xiph (Vorbis author) wrote a good article on ultra-high sampling rates with a great explanation on why no one needs or should want them.

    http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

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    24/192 Music Downloads ...and why they make no sense

    http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
    Someone linked to this interesting read coming from some man that has some knowledge about audio and what is audible or not. He is the main developer of the ogg codec and alone for that he should know 1 or 2 things

    A very interesting point is again that if you really playback higher frequency contenet it is very likely that the audible frequencies indeed get altered but in a negatiuve way. Thats what some people may hear but it can´t be for the better.

    Edit: didn´t notice AndyG startet a similar thread, sorry
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    Thanks will keep it in my sig for a while , my blatherinmg fills the forum anyway so it could spread this a while
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    Wombat beat you to the punch

    http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...304#post694304

    we have a tread already
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    Mine was first, I win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pippin View Post
    I only trust my ears!!
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    Thanks Andy for the link to a very interesting article. Parts of it were over my head (he kind of lost me in his discussion of oversampling), but overall he makes a lot of sense.

    Hopefully knowledgable people like him can bring some sanity to the situation. 24 bit/128kHz formats seemed like complete overkill to me; it's good to see that there is data to confirm that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pippin View Post
    I only trust my ears!!
    Not me. I wake up every day with a burning desire to have someone else tell me what I can and cannot hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyg View Post
    Monty at Xiph (Vorbis author) wrote a good article on ultra-high sampling rates with a great explanation on why no one needs or should want them.

    http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
    Wow - great article, pretty much sums up most of what I believe and what I've been posting here for some years now.

    Thanks for posting that, Andy.
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