Why does this goes to Various Artists...

[emalvick]

good point and to emphasize your point above, even if the artist has an artistsort tag IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TRACK IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ALBUM it will change the treatment of how things show up in the album you are looking at above that does NOT have an artistsort tag. This oddity has plagued SbS/LMS users for a long time I think....

So I'd look for any tracks from any albums related to the artist in question, pull these up in mp3tag, and look for things like artistsort, albumartistsort, etc.

This is a point, I wanted to make as my own experience was one odd track in some other album that led to my discovery of the error in another album.

I only suggest the current problem album for the user because if something all of a sudden has gone wrong, then it is likely that something changed in the newest set of tags. However, if the user is editing any other tags or even ripping albums that could be related (via a common SORT tag) then all bets can be off.

The suggestion by JJZolx can be very important, too. If the answer is that his compilation is showing a "Yes" then it is most likely due to the compilation tags or something related rather than a sort tag. If the answer is "No" then he definitely needs to look for other tags that can sneak in, including having ID3v1 tags.

[T-bird]

- some files has ARTIST=[actual artists name] and others have Diverse Kunstnere as the enclosed. (Diverse Kunstnere = Various Artists in danish).

If an album have tracks containing different artists, doesn't the server make this a compilation even if compilation tags is not set or missing?

[garym]

If an album have tracks containing different artists, doesn't the server make this a compilation even if compilation tags is not set or missing?

yes, if there is no album artist. haven't checked, but I assume this "guess as a compilation" would still show up as a "compilation = yes" in the LMS webGUI (related to the earlier pic posted).

[JJZolx]

yes, if there is no album artist. haven't checked, but I assume this "guess as a compilation" would still show up as a "compilation = yes" in the LMS webGUI (related to the earlier pic posted).

Correct.

[MrSinatra]

it would be nice if the OP would respond, but one of the things thrwoing me here on the diagnosis is the different language. like, is his OS in Danish? his server? does that impact bug 9523?

also, even if he isn't using an AA tag, if he sets all his artists tags to be in conflict with the VA string, he'll still suffer from bug 9523.

high time to get bug 15604 done, as it has at least 39 votes now, and will solve 9523.

[pski]

Hi all

I have an odd problem or is overlooking something, when setting tags on my music.

According to the "Various Artists" logic described here: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.ph...usArtistsLogic
it goes that: "If a file has explicit 'ALBUMARTIST' tags the server recognizes, it will NEVER be classified as a comp/VA album"

In more occasions I have albums where I use the ALBUMARTIST tag to avoid the Various Artists functionality to come in use. As i do not want this.
In the enclosed screenshot, the bottom one, is an example where it works like a charm and acts like it should and does not make use of the squeezebox Various Artists functionality.

The album has more different artists. But one Album name. And by defining one Album Artists name, it does not become a Various Artists, and I'm happy :-)

But then I have another example. Again with more different Artists, and again one Album name. And one Album Artists name. But this errornously becomes and Various Artists listing in My Music, e.g. under Artists. See enclosed example, the top one.

- Why does this happen. What I'm I overlooking?

It does comply to the "If a file has explicit 'ALBUMARTIST' tags the server recognizes, it will NEVER be classified as a comp/VA album" rule

... that is, unless the "...the server recognizes..." could be the cause? Does anyone know what is meant by this?

All my music does not have a COMP tag. Neither 0 nor 1. It is blank.

And before you suggest using COMP=0 I do not want to use this, as this will make all the individual artists of the album appear in the My Music > Artists list, which I don't want. I only want to have my "major" artists there.

Heeeelp please.

FYI: I'm in Denmark, and in the screenshots Titel = Title, Kunster=Artists, Album Kunster = Album Artists

Kind regards
Jens

This is clearly a case of the tag comparison variables in the current language not agreeing with the value of the tracks' tags. Based-on the screen image, this can only be a recognition problem because the data is apparent.

P

<of course, the JPark Error is : "stop looking when you think you've found everything">

[Mnyb]

What is the setting for

"When compilation albums are grouped together, they appear under "Various Artists" by default. You can change that name below."

[JENCDK]

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It only takes one file to have an ARTIST SORT tag to make all your music with that one ARTIST or one ALBUM show up under a different location.

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[QUOTE=garym;692891]good point and to emphasize your point above, even if the artist has an artistsort tag IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TRACK IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ALBUM it will change the treatment of how things show up in the album you are looking at above that does NOT have an artistsort tag... QUOTE]


Ahh, good point. Now I get the "1-file/every file"-importance.
I'll go through all my files, 1 by 1, too see if I can find a culprit.

I'll revert with an update, for future readers of the thread who may have same issues.

[JENCDK]

chances are this is a tagging or location issue.

first, are all the problem files in one folder location? i find with server that its best to put one album = one folder.

second, i agree about making sure all files are only using one tag type. for mp3, i only use id3v2.3

third, in server, have you drilled down to the song level info? look there, b/c u will see everything that server sees as tags. a stray weird sort tag or something like that could be the cause.

also, i assume the AA tag itself does not = "Various Artists" as that causes problems which need workarounds in default server.

i also assume u have server set to treat TPE2 as AA since this is how most all apps treat TPE2 (de facto standard, but out of spec)

fourth, are the tags in english or translated by the app?

what is meant by "recognizes" is that people can annotate AA tags in different ways. in english, for flac it could be "ALBUM ARTIST" or "ALBUMARTIST" etc...

in id3v2, it could be TPE2 or TXXX ALBUMARTIST or TXXX ALBUM ARTIST etc...

so it has to be a method server knows to interpret as AA.

1) Yes, all are in 1 and same folder

2) I'll do that. See later question of how to remove tags rather than setting them to 0/nothing

3)I have drilled down in server for some files, but not all. As mentioned I'll go through all. The album is listet (errousnously) as a compilation in SB server. I haven't seen any unexpected "runaway-tags".

4) The tags are in english. They are translated in user interface in app(s)

[JENCDK]

What is your indication that this is being recognized as a compilation album? If you view the album in the web interface, does it show 'Compilation: Yes', as in the screenshot below? If not, then it's not considered a compilation.

Yes. It shows "Compilation: Yes".