FUD, intellectual honesty, digital facts, and the TAS articles...

[andynormancx]

The same comment with one minor change could also be used to describe the TAS Computer Music series:

Wow. That is the most impressive professional looking bullshit I've ever seen. They really have perfected the art of PUBLISHING snake oil.

Very true.

[Phil Leigh]

Yeah but it wont last over time, hence you are in the "upgrade" spiral

What can be mildly irritating as that no one reads the tread it is like a Relay race the next audiofool comes along and pose the same already answered and done questions without any apparent understanding of previous posts (hence the their posts ), and other rehash their tired response maybe in a more acerbic manner the 87th time around .

But no wonder about that, the overwhelming majority of the audio press is a part of this disinformation scam they feed on the cult and also provide the feedback loop for it all , but it needs to be done to spend some energy dispute this I will at least spent as munch time and energy on it as I wasted believing all this claptrap .

In the meantime have a blackbody

http://www.lessloss.com/blackbody-p-200.html

And raving positive review from the lunatic fringe literally , they not pleased at bark at one moon...

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/l...ackbody_3.html

I particularly enjoyed this priceless gem of 6moons hyperbollox...

"The very first place I set up two Blackbodies was in pincer fashion around my iMac, one on either end of the screen. It didn't take long to notice that my brain no longer felt assaulted from this powerful computer's radiations with its Blutooth mouse and keyboard. Whether this meant wholesale elimination of its emissions or just a significant enough reduction to provide tacit physical relief I couldn't say. What mattered was that as far as an electromagnetically hyper-active physical presence went, the iMac now felt no different to me than the conventional Ancient Audio CD player it replaced. "

[Mnyb]

One mechanism of the human mind is bit of a mystery to me , but of no mystery to snake oilers.

Where does these jokers writing in TAS authority come from ? Why are anyone believing these fools over more sane authorities ? they have found a working concept of playing on our wishful thinking in some way ?

This is not unique to audio people can go out of shool with top grades in physics and biology and still swim with doplhins or go to mystery retreats rinsing thier bowel with herbs or similar ?

Why do people want to believe this kind of crap ( in some minutes it is ancient aliens on tv speaking of crap ).

edit:
You can not know or understand everything in detail yourself if you have a legal question you go to a layer if you have question about your pension you talk to your banker so we have to make a shortcut and select authorities we believe in in certain questions but why on earth believe TAS in anything regarding audio ?

[ralphpnj]

You can not know or understand everything in detail yourself if you have a legal question you go to a layer if you have question about your pension you talk to your banker so we have to make a shortcut and select authorities we believe in in certain questions but why on earth believe TAS in anything regarding audio ?

Hopefully the end result of TAS publishing the Computer Music series will be that many of TAS' more rational readers will finally see what a disgrace Harley and his merry band of industry shills really are and stop reading TAS. Now that would be poetic justice.

I really believe that TAS crossed the line with all this pure and utter nonsense, and I say nonsense because it can be shown and has been shown to be nonsense with almost no effort, and hopefully other sane audiophiles will the light and will no longer chose to read TAS.

[mlsstl]

I particularly enjoyed this priceless gem of 6moons hyperbollox...

"... no longer felt assaulted from this powerful computer's radiations with its Blutooth mouse and keyboard. Whether this meant wholesale elimination of its emissions ....

Wonder if that means the bluetooth accessories and wireless no longer work. That would seem the logical conclusion of such a powerful effect on electromagnetic radiation from the gear.

[EricBergan]

Ok, I wasn't a big believer in the TAS "sell them anything" conspiracy theory. But just got #222. There were two letters to the editor printed about the four part story, but both asking for advice on whether they should re-rip their FLAC files.

So no questions published about Dr Charles Zellig and Jay Clawson's credentials. No questions published questioning if two ripping programs produce bit identical files, how can there be a difference due to the ripping programs. No acknowledgement of the controversy on many forums, or Stereophile's comment that they had been offered the series, had concerns, and passed on printing the series.

I have a few issues left on my subscription, but if editorially they just ignore all this, looks like I'll not be renewing after many years.

eric

[ralphpnj]

Ok, I wasn't a big believer in the TAS "sell them anything" conspiracy theory. But just got #222. There were two letters to the editor printed about the four part story, but both asking for advice on whether they should re-rip their FLAC files.

So no questions published about Dr Charles Zellig and Jay Clawson's credentials. No questions published questioning if two ripping programs produce bit identical files, how can there be a difference due to the ripping programs. No acknowledgement of the controversy on many forums, or Stereophile's comment that they had been offered the series, had concerns, and passed on printing the series.

I have a few issues left on my subscription, but if editorially they just ignore all this, looks like I'll not be renewing after many years.

eric

I'm almost a +1 on the above but for two differences:

I am somewhat of a believer in a modified version of "TAS "sell them anything" conspiracy theory", more of a keep the advertisers happy conspiracy theory.

I also just received TAS issue #222 but, lucky me, it is my last issue. I will miss some of the music coverage which on occasion can be very worthwhile but no enough to justify resubscribing.

Another strike against TAS is that it is one of number of magazines where the price of a subscription renewal is a deal higher than the price of new subscription.

[Owen Smith]

In that whole series I find their finding that perfect digital copies of files sound different the most insane .

I've been having that argument over on AVForums in the Oppo 95 EU forum. Apparently dbpoweramp sucks and EAC is much better, even if they both report accurate rip and produce identical files the EAC one will sound *SOOO* much better and I must be insane to be using dbpoweramp. Also WAV is significantly superior to FLAC (because decoding the FLAC messes up the timing) and if I can't hear the difference then either my hearing or my hifi isn't up to scratch. Oh dear, the insanity of it.

I love the "your ears or hifi aren't good enough to hear it" excuse so that they can dismiss my refuting them out of hand. I guess I should go into business selling them 1000 pounds/dollars cat 5 cables.

[garym]

I've been having that argument over on AVForums in the Oppo 95 EU forum. Apparently dbpoweramp sucks and EAC is much better, even if they both report accurate rip and produce identical files the EAC one will sound *SOOO* much better and I must be insane to be using dbpoweramp. Also WAV is significantly superior to FLAC (because decoding the FLAC messes up the timing) and if I can't hear the difference then either my hearing or my hifi isn't up to scratch. Oh dear, the insanity of it.

I love the "your ears or hifi aren't good enough to hear it" excuse so that they can dismiss my refuting them out of hand. I guess I should go into business selling them 1000 pounds/dollars cat 5 cables.

yep, pure insanity. I hate those sort of forums where myths become truth. The inmates are in charge of the asylum and sane folks are treated as crazy. Unfortunately, some of that is creeping in around here...

[Soulkeeper]

yep, pure insanity. I hate those sort of forums where myths become truth. The inmates are in charge of the asylum and sane folks are treated as crazy. Unfortunately, some of that is creeping in around here...

The moderators don't want to do anything about it, so the way I see it, there's only two things we can do, unfortunately (if we want to do anything at all): This and this.

Other than that, it seems we'll just have to let them flop around in their magic wonderland of objective subjectivity (or was it the other way around), on this forum too. You can lead a brain to thought, but you can't make it think.