Is there an alternative to Spicefly Sugarcube?

**stevef5** · 2012-02-08, 05:08

I had been a satisfied user of Spicefly Sugarcube ever since getting my squeezebox several years ago. However, ever since I made a small donation last year I appear to have been stuck with a version that doesn't work properly (It is 3.02 I believe).
As an example, I have 30-40 albums from the 60's out of a total of more than 1200 but Spicefly now insists on queueing up tracks from these albums no matter what kind of music I have used as a seed and most of the rest of my collection seems to be ignored.
It is a great shame as It really worked well for me before. Anyway, I was wondering if these is any other software around that performs a similiar function, ideally when used with musicIP.
Thanks

**bobertuk** · 2012-02-08, 06:52

There have been several versions of Spicefly Sugarcube since v3.02, the latest being v3.51. Have you tried out any of these later versions?

Bob

**stevef5** · 2012-02-08, 07:23

Thanks,

the only version I seem to be able to get via the respository link is 3.02. I was never given a login to the Spicefly site so don't have access to anything later.
Had a feeling I saw a reference to another package that performed a similiar function in the past which is why I asked.

Steve

**kakklank** · 2012-02-08, 10:41

There's no viable alternative and spicefly sugarcube works brilliantly. Contact cparker and sort out access to the latest version.

**MeSue** · 2012-02-08, 11:00

I agree you should contact cparker about getting your credentials so you can get the latest version, but there is an alternative. See message #5 in this thread to learn about Dynamic Mix from Philip Meyer: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...ht=Dynamic+Mix

**Philip Meyer** · 2012-02-08, 15:28

>I agree you should contact cparker about getting your credentials so you
>can get the latest version, but there is an alternative. See message #5
>in this thread to learn about Dynamic Mix from Philip Meyer:
>http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...ht=Dynamic+Mix

Yes, my plugin is a possible alternative.

Dynamic Mix started from parts of an older version of Sugar Cube. I only used the Dynamic Playlist support in SugarCube, and wanted to extend and at the same time simplify that to fix some bugs that I had discovered.

Potentially, you may suffer similar symptoms. It could be down to MusicIP and/or settings that you have configured for choosing related songs. i.e. it could be that your variety setting is too low, that you have a filter that is causing it to ignore other albums, etc.

Beware also that it depends on Dynamic Playlist plugin (developed by Erland), which you may need to play a small fee for (not sure - Dynamic Playlist might still be a free plugin, as on its own it doesn't provide much functionality).

**stevef5** · 2012-02-09, 01:00

Thanks for the replies everyone.
I do not mind paying a samll fee, so I will give Philip Meyer's and Elland's plugin's a go.

With regard to the various settings in Spicefly Sugarcube, I agree that it could possibly be my settings that are causing problems but if that is the case I cannot for the life of me understand why on;y a few albums from the 60's are included along with a random few others and I have moved the settings around.
What I really liked about spicefly sugarcube when I first used it was that I didn't have to do ANY tweaking - it just kinda worked - and worked well too.

Once again, thanks for the suggestions.

**pippin** · 2012-02-09, 03:15

My experience (I'm also having a hard time to get SugarCube to act like I want) is that this is mainly dependent on the MusicIP settings and it's the same in Phil's plugin, although I like Phil's plugin somewhat better than Sugarcube because I can just turn it off by playing something else and it doesn't change a whole bunch of other unrelated behaviors.
Although... I use SugarCube in the Bathroom because here I want to make sure there's always something queued up, no fun if the music ends while you are in the shower....

But back to topic, here's my gotcha: For me the issue was that you now seem to _have_ to use the per-player MusicIP settings, no matter what the plugin says (both plugins) in the general setting... Wait, Phil's plugin only has per-player settings anyway but in SugarCube and MusicIP there's an option to not use per-player settings with MusicIP and that doesn't work as of my experience, you always have to configure the settings per player or they are set to ridiculous defaults.

**Mnyb** · 2012-02-09, 03:28

Don't forget that the MIP server itself has an web-Ui with settings

**pippin** · 2012-02-09, 03:49

Do they override the settings in the plugin?

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