If only all audiophiles were like this man, Peter Aczel

**Soulkeeper** · 2012-02-08, 05:51

Totoro (and others communicating with attention-seekers on and off forums), perhaps you should read this.

**totoro** · 2012-02-08, 08:59

Originally Posted by Soulkeeper

Totoro (and others communicating with attention-seekers on and off forums), perhaps you should read this.

Sigh. You are correct. Sometimes it is hard not to say anything.

**Mnyb** · 2012-02-08, 10:24

i was happy to discover audiocritic

but sad to see that it nowadays is an iregular webzine , basically run by the old guy himself + ocasional friend :-/ this can not last and then what ?

Is there any other magaszine that has this high quality journalism ?

Very interisting tests, anyone still under the illusion that most high end products is well designed can read some of the old numbers avaible, the products are long obselete and much have happen since but anyway.

The usual cult literature rarely finds obvius flaws and malfunctions and reporting it to customers as such.

Some of these reviews have engineers at least on par ( or better ) analysing the circiut design cool

I like a magasine that recomends an Sony ES CD player over an Accuphase due to better parts and design inside the Sony for 1/5 of the price.

Imo if you are to review a thing in public seriusly you should understand how and why it works.
None of the golden ears are qualified .

Good to see the powercube measurment again , it was popular in a magasines where i live.

**Mnyb** · 2012-02-08, 10:30

Originally Posted by totoro

Sigh. You are correct. Sometimes it is hard not to say anything.

To our help the forum has a function where you can put people on an ignore list, this is partly offset by people quoting these things....

**ToddSTS** · 2012-02-08, 13:05

Originally Posted by Mnyb

Is there any other magaszine that has this high quality journalism ?

www.audioholics.com is pretty good for real reviews of audio gear without a lot of 'audiophlile' lingo.

Todd

**Squeezed_Rotel** · 2012-02-08, 14:18

Originally Posted by Mnyb

One isolated example if you try to be hifi intrested you soon realise all hardware is 5 to 10 times more expensive than it should be due to uneccessary over engineering, and even more expensive due that normal people are scared away from this hoby/cult add the wast amount of even more bizzare rech that performs worse than a chinese wallmart dvd and sells for 10000$
so you are basically conned as soon as join the cult.
So ex cult members feels like they been had

And in general pseudoscience is more harmfull to society than many people credit, much more harmfull.
and cult are very harmfull to you.

Audiophilia is an obscure and benign example it may ruin a fammily economy and some relationships but not your health ( usually ). You divert resources to crap instead of suporting a usefull industry with your $ carbonfootprint for nothing anyone ?

But as it is a subspeices of pseudoscience that are also an informal cult, it worries me .

I'm in genral against pseudoscience it is a menace and penetrate society on all levels and do damage, llok at all the med quakery !
And I'm also aginst cults as they destoy people .

No audiophilia is not as bad as scientology or anthroposophy or homeophaty, or my pet hate creationism or any of that ilk

But it is the same kind of wideeyed uncritical flawed thinking at work .

Human decision making and society would gain a lot of you just take 5 and think about things critically or
sceptically for a while now and then.

The dark ages is a prime example , they burned people for heressy, we can get there again really quick.
Imo religion have robbed humanity of at least 1000 years of development and countless millions have suffered. How many suffers from HIV due the catholics ban on condoms you tell me that BS is not harmfull

Bs perverts the human mind thats the problem.

I must say that I agree with you wholehaeartedly. As Dilbert (comic strip) engineer is fond af saying; "when did ignorance become a point of view"

**TheOctavist** · 2012-02-08, 14:37

Originally Posted by magiccarpetride

Ah, feels so great being this popular. People can't seem to be able to stop talking about me. My, my...

hes not native english speaking, numbnuts. rather read him than you anyday

**chill** · 2012-02-08, 15:07

Originally Posted by TheOctavist

hes not native english speaking, numbnuts. rather read him than you anyday

Tempting as it is to be outraged by MCR, it's worth remembering that his attempt to insult a respected forum member is probably just more of the attention-seeking behaviour that Soulkeeper pointed out.

**magiccarpetride** · 2012-02-08, 15:40

Originally Posted by chill

Tempting as it is to be outraged by MCR, it's worth remembering that his attempt to insult a respected forum member is probably just more of the attention-seeking behaviour that Soulkeeper pointed out.

You guys are so easily outraged.

**pandasharka** · 2012-02-08, 16:09

Originally Posted by magiccarpetride

You guys are so easily outraged.

Be thankful that Logitech clearly have no time to monitor these forums closely. If they did, they would discover that an increasing amount of their storage is being wasted on posts by our resident idiot MCR that while amusing:

a)are now months past their sell-by
b)contribute zip
c)have probably been regurgitated and plagiarized from some other site.

I enjoy reading this forum for ideas and information. I do not enjoy seeing the moniker of this propellorhead on threads I'm interested in - together with the resultant response from fellow members.

This guy could start an argument in an empty room.

Now, where is the button to make a recommendation to Logitech moderators to get this idiot barred?

Many thanks

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