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  1. #1
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    Hey folks, please help me with getting Inguz/DRC/ setup on my SBT!!

    Need walked through this. this is for my living room. I have a HQ mic, preamps, etc, and a nice DAW...but I have no idea how to implement this in squeezebox.

    anyone?
    Vortexbox>SBT(stock)>>Forssell MDAC-2>>>Klein and Hummell 0300D

    Sota Sapphire/Lyra Kleos>>Bespoke Valve Phono Stage>>Mastersound Due Venti>>Link Audio K100

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOctavist View Post
    Need walked through this. this is for my living room. I have a HQ mic, preamps, etc, and a nice DAW...but I have no idea how to implement this in squeezebox.

    anyone?
    Since it appears you may be running LMS on your Vortexbox, as am I, I recall asking that question, myself. If I remember correctly, it was all but impossible. But, I don't recall the exact reasons. You might search on both the forums there and here as I think it was discussed a bit on both.
    Rg

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    Main: Vortexbox > Teddy Pardo PS >Touch (wired) > USB> MF VLink II >Toslink > Rega DAC > LFD LE IV Signature amp > VA Mozart Grands > REL Acoustics R305.

    Home Theatre: Touch (Wired) > Pioneer VSX 919 > Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1.

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    Rg

    System information
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    Main: Vortexbox > Teddy Pardo PS >Touch (wired) > USB> MF VLink II >Toslink > Rega DAC > LFD LE IV Signature amp > VA Mozart Grands > REL Acoustics R305.

    Home Theatre: Touch (Wired) > Pioneer VSX 919 > Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1.

    SBS 7.7.2 r33908 on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 2.2, Touches: FW 7.7.2 r9663.

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    this is not for my "main" system(vortexbox) but for my living room, which has a PC.

    so..how to set it up on the PC/LMS?
    Vortexbox>SBT(stock)>>Forssell MDAC-2>>>Klein and Hummell 0300D

    Sota Sapphire/Lyra Kleos>>Bespoke Valve Phono Stage>>Mastersound Due Venti>>Link Audio K100

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    you need to study the very long thread that starts with this post...
    http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpo...85&postcount=1
    I can ty and help you, but I only use Audiolense to do my measurements and creat the convolution file.
    It's a world of pain to get working but once working it is superb ime.
    You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...
    Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables
    Stax4070+SRM7/II phones
    Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Leigh View Post
    you need to study the very long thread that starts with this post...
    http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpo...85&postcount=1
    I can ty and help you, but I only use Audiolense to do my measurements and creat the convolution file.
    It's a world of pain to get working but once working it is superb ime.
    Ok sir..

    so ill get audiolense and that way you can school me on exactly what to do.

    I am using a single mic from my studio arsenal, a gefell Mk221 with josephson c617 bodies...

    Frequency Response: 10 Hz – 100 kHz +0, -1dB
    Equivalent noise level: <2.5µV A-weighted, <6.5µV CCIR quasi-peak
    Gain:2.5 dB (balanced symmetrical direct coupled output)
    Maximum output level: +7dBV for <1% THD, 1kΩ load
    Output impedance: 50Ω (minimum load impedance 1kΩ)
    Power requirements: P48 phantom per IEC 61938, <5 mA
    Capsule polarize: 200V
    Temperature Range: -10 to +50°C
    Dimensions: 21mm diameter 165mm long (less capsule)

    or maybe my sanken cu 100k
    Directivity Omni directional
    Transducer DC biased condenser
    Frequency range ***20Hz - 100kHz ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Sensitivity
    (nominal at 1kHz) 39.8mV/Pa ( -28dB,0dB=1V/Pa)
    Equivalent noise level
    (A-weighted) 22dB-A
    Max SPL (1% THD) 125dB SPL
    Output impedance
    at 1KHz 150 ohms
    Powering +48±4V phantom
    Current consumption less than 6mA
    Weight 150g
    Dimensions 191.5mm X 20.5mm (diameter)
    Surface finish matte black
    Connector XLR-3M
    Vortexbox>SBT(stock)>>Forssell MDAC-2>>>Klein and Hummell 0300D

    Sota Sapphire/Lyra Kleos>>Bespoke Valve Phono Stage>>Mastersound Due Venti>>Link Audio K100

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    but yes, Mr. Phil.can you walk me through it?
    Vortexbox>SBT(stock)>>Forssell MDAC-2>>>Klein and Hummell 0300D

    Sota Sapphire/Lyra Kleos>>Bespoke Valve Phono Stage>>Mastersound Due Venti>>Link Audio K100

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    btw mr phil, my spare system is SBT>>mytek stereo 96 DA

    mic as shown above, and a little cheapie interface that I sometimes use for archival purposes(when I dont want to drag out the big rig) it is a steinberg c12.





    also..do i need that modified PM file for the new LMS?
    Vortexbox>SBT(stock)>>Forssell MDAC-2>>>Klein and Hummell 0300D

    Sota Sapphire/Lyra Kleos>>Bespoke Valve Phono Stage>>Mastersound Due Venti>>Link Audio K100

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    It's going to be a long journey...
    First you need to the room measurements. You will need Audiolense (or siimilar), a good mic with a Flat response between 20hz and 15khz, a good mic stand, and a suspension mount for the mic. Then you need a USB interface for your PC like the one you already have in the pictures.
    You need to download and install INGUZ <it is free) from the Inguz website, follow the instructions provided.

    Audiolense will creat the convolution file that is used by Inguz at playback time. LMS pipes the data through SOX into INGUZ to apply the DRC.


    Do you have an iPhone or iPad or iPod Touch? - the web UI for INGUZ no longer runs properly on recent browsers, but iPeng can control it fine on an iDevice. This isnt essential but it really helps a lot.
    Finally the will be some hacking around to be done and you will need the version of plugin.pm I posted.. And you will need to make a custom_convert.conf file... I can sort that out for you (much) later.
    I'm busy today, but I reckon someone with your experience can get as far as making the measurements and installing the basic Inguz package... It's the bits after that that you might need my help with.
    Regards
    Phil
    You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...
    Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables
    Stax4070+SRM7/II phones
    Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Leigh View Post
    you need to study the very long thread that starts with this post...
    http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpo...85&postcount=1
    I can ty and help you, but I only use Audiolense to do my measurements and creat the convolution file.
    It's a world of pain to get working but once working it is superb ime.
    If you want to have a laugh TR you can see from that thread how long it took me to get it running (post 128-182), mainly because I forgot to install the filter processor as well as the plugin. It's worth noting that the files unpack to a different location than that mentioned in the manual (because it's pre win7).

    *I am still deeply indebted to Phil for helping me.*

    I suspect that you will manage all this more easily than I did.

    By the way, even without a proper DRC convolver Inguyz in its basic form is actually quite useful. It contains EQ, balance control and even a channel delay to compensate for asymmetrical speaker positioning. And even an ambisonics processor, which would be really useful if there were any ambisonic recordings.

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