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    Is it true that airplay works per instance of iTunes or an iOS device? For instance, I have one computer with iTunes on it and somebody in room A is listening to music via AirPlay, somebody in room B cannot choose to listen to something else via AirPlay from that computer.

    In that scenario, is it possible at least for both room A and B to listen to the same music in sync?

    I've always thought of the independent playback per Squeezebox along with the syncing capability as differentiators for Logitech. I just want to double check (never having used AirPlay myself) that I'm correct in my understanding.
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    You can play different music on different AirPlay devices if you've got more than one source but iTunes can only handle a single playback queue.
    So "yes" to your first question.

    Syncing kind of works but it's not an active sync but only through Multicast or other network means so devices _can_ get out of sync although it's usually good enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pippin View Post
    You can play different music on different AirPlay devices if you've got more than one source but iTunes can only handle a single playback queue.
    So "yes" to your first question.
    Thanks for confirming my understanding. To me, this setup has limited use - kids with an iPod or iPad that want to listen over speakers in their room, college kids looking to do the same, etc. Though I guess that limited audience is pretty large :-).
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    Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maggior View Post
    kids with an iPod or iPad that want to listen over speakers in their room, college kids looking to do the same, etc. Though I guess that limited audience is pretty large :-).
    The DK goverment has a goal of getting some 80 percent of the population through college, so that's a good start for Apple then

    But seriously. I love the SB for its advanced functionality, but I could certainly make use of easily being able to redirect the sounds from my fruits to the stereo. British hi-fi's such as Naim and Linn will certainly not switch to Airplay-only, but at the same time users are demanding Airplay as additional functionality and Linn already delivered and Naim promise to do within months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amrace View Post
    I would like another Boom type device to add to my existing system of 2 Classics and Boom.
    I was surprised to see the Boom listed in a recent email from Amazon about network music players. And "only" US$500....
    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001DJ64D4/...660_pe_epc_dt3

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    Logitech Airplay Speaker

    Great discussion...I still wonder why the Squeezebox Touch could not
    also be an Airplay device - so you could select it as a receiver and
    use Airplay to stream to the SB. This would be the best of both
    worlds: a superior networked 'open' audio solution (Squeezebox) and
    the convenience of Airplay. .

    BTW, I noticed that the D-Link Boxee is doing this now - via a recent
    firmware update. I believe there software is also open. Curiously,
    they don't call it Airplay but "Enable Streaming from iOS device."

    One other point seems to be missing in the broader discussion - the
    SB products are perfect for multi-room setups: you can have one (or
    more) music libraries and stream virtually any music source to
    individual players - either synched or individual (different) streams
    You can then also control all rooms via one pretty good web-interface
    on any networked computer, or via an App (iPeng, etc.). There is also
    pretty much no limitation on the type of source (local music of most
    formats, radio, numerous services) and all can be played back from one
    interface. The Apple stuff does not do this well - the best way I
    can think of to achieve multi-room/multiple streams with Apple is to
    have multiple Apple TVs and then use Apple Remote App for local music
    (iTunes libraries) and then Airplay for other Apps. Conceptually
    this is not much different from multiple networked SBs, except that it
    can also do Airplay. And it has downsides compared to an SB
    solution: you can't sync multiple Apple TVs, limitations on music
    formats for local music, no wired streaming of services like Pandora
    etc (only Airplay), and inferior management (you have to switch back
    and forth with the Apple Remote app to control different apple TVs).

    In any case, I think Airplay on the SB would be a great feature and
    make good business sense. Logitech should figure out a way to do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaboyi View Post
    Great discussion...I still wonder why the Squeezebox Touch could not
    also be an Airplay device - so you could select it as a receiver and
    use Airplay to stream to the SB. This would be the best of both
    worlds: a superior networked 'open' audio solution (Squeezebox) and
    the convenience of Airplay. .
    ...
    In any case, I think Airplay on the SB would be a great feature and
    make good business sense. Logitech should figure out a way to do it!
    It's not up to Logitech.
    Google Apple's terms&conditions for AirPlay and you know why it won't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pippin View Post
    You can play different music on different AirPlay devices if you've got more than one source but iTunes can only handle a single playback queue.
    So "yes" to your first question.

    Syncing kind of works but it's not an active sync but only through Multicast or other network means so devices _can_ get out of sync although it's usually good enough.
    So this means <apologies> that Airplay/Apple does not support playing one thing to one device and something else to any others.

    Add to that the fact you have to use a playlist to pick what is playing next.

    Stupid is as stupid does.

    P

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    Logitech Airplay Speaker

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    > It's not up to Logitech.
    > Google Apple's terms&conditions for AirPlay and you know why it won't
    > happen.


    i am not a lawyer so i'll skip wading through terms&conditions, but it
    seems odd that so many other hardware devices can....is Logitech or
    the SB Touch unique is some regard? I used the example of D-Link Boxee
    - they enabled it via a firmware update. The Boxee (video streaming
    player) is not so functionally different from an SB (audio streaming
    player). if the terms are so restrictive, why can a company like
    D-Link/Boxee do it and not Logitech? Or the growing list of other
    hardware AV companies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pski View Post
    So this means <apologies> that Airplay/Apple does not support playing one thing to one device and something else to any others.
    No. AirPlay supports it, at least as an overall system (don't know whether you can have two streams from the same device since AirPlay is pretty much built into the OS).
    What does not is iTunes, iTunes can only play one queue at a time.
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    Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App,
    at penguinlovesmusic.com
    New: iPeng 7, the Universal App for iOS 7

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