IP problems

[Dirk V]

Logitech Media Server doesn't seem to connect with SBT; apparently problem with different/wrong IP numbers given through my internet provider (when using wifi connection, it works fine). So can't access "my music" which is on my PC on the SBT.

[toby10]

Bit more info would help... computer? OS? Network setup?

Are you saying your LMS server computer is wired, your player is on WiFi, your ISP uses different IP subnets for each type of connection? Therefore the server and player cannot see each other? That doesn't sound right that an ISP would insist on such a setup.

Are you sure there are not two available WiFi connection types? One is your main network, the other is a segregated "guest" network?

[Dirk V]

I'm not an expert, but here we go...:

- OS is Windows XP (home edition); Dell PC
- I've installed LMS on that PC, then cable/ethernet through a switch to a router (for my kids'laptop, etc.). SBT connected to the router also with cable (I could do wireless, but they are just 1 meter from each other...).

Data from LMS (partly in Dutch...):

Status van Logitech Media Server

Logitech Media Server Versie: 7.7.1 - r33750 @ Mon Dec 12 09:42:47 PST 2011
Hostnaam: huiscomputer
IP-adres van server: 94.225.37.48
HTTP-poortnummer van server: 9000
Besturingssysteem: Windows XP - NL - cp1252
Platformarchitectuur: 586
Perl-versie: 5.14.1 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread
Databaseversie: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1)
Totaalaantal herkende muzieksystemen: 1

Muzieksysteeminformatie

Model van muzieksysteem: Squeezebox Touch
Firmware: 7.7.1-r9558
IP-adres van muzieksysteem: 94.225.38.9
MAC-adres van muzieksysteem: 00:04:20:23:25:78

I'm quite sure that by installing a WIFI card on my PC, it will work; but it should also work through good old ethernet !?

Thanks.

[toby10]

Yes, it should work wired or WiFi. But your player and your server are not on the same network. Server is x.37.48 and player is x.38.9, the 37 & 38 must be the same number to be on the same network. It also looks like a very strange IP for a router, those IP's look like the ISP's assigned IP to your account, not a normal internal router assined IP.

Also, are you sure that "switch" is just a simple switch? Or is it a hub/switch?
The proper way is to connect the switch to the router, then connect the devices to the switch. You may have this reversed, hard to say.
I have a feeling your ISP modem is assigning your device IP's and not the router.

Here is how a normal network would be setup...
ISP modem > router > switch > *all devices connect to switch and/or router*

I'd suggest you contact your ISP and ask them.

[chill]

Server is x.37.48 and player is x.38.9, the 37 & 38 must be the same number to be on the same network.

Toby - can you not set the subnet mask to 255.255.0.0 to let devices on different subnets see each other?

[Soulkeeper]

Dirk V: Can you tell us the netmask? Click Start, type cmd and press enter. A black window with white text should appear. Type ipconfig in the window and press enter. It should then tell you the Subnet Mask. If it's not 255.255.0.0 you might have a problem.

Your IPs do look a bit odd. They're not standard LAN IPs as far as I can see.

[toby10]

I don't know a whole lot about networking, but I believe just matching the subnets won't place the devices on the same network.
I believe all subnets and IP's (except for the very last IP digits) must all be identical to be on the same network.

I'm guessing the OP's setup is incorrect where he might have the ISP modem connected to the switch prior to the router. This means the modem is likely assigning the IP's to the actual devices as he is seeing. If setup correctly the ISP modem *only* assigns a single IP to the router and only the router, then the router assigns IP's to all networked devices (which is the whole point of having a router).

[Dirk V]

to all: I went the easy way and plugged one of those wifi micro adapters into my PC; LMS immediately connected with SBT - all running smooth. No more cables and switches for me! Thanks anyhow for your support.

[toby10]

I'm glad you got it working, but I would strongly recommend you get your network setup properly anyway (assuming my idea that your ISP modem is indeed assigning IP's to your devices instead of only assigning an IP to your router only). If true, you are way under utilizing your router (you have now turned your $60 router into a simple $10 switch) and you may be making your computer quite vulnerable to attacks and intrusion from the internet. Properly setup a router adds another level of security to a home network (built in firewall, NAT protection, etc...). Also, if you add more devices you may run into more problems (modem will only handle so many IP's, modem and router will assign different IP subs creating multiple different networks, etc..)

You already own the gear, a router, may as well make full use of it's benefits while avoiding potential network issues.