LMS windows service DOES NOT WORK!

[MrSinatra]

please see here:

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17848

basically, the LMS service doesn't exist, doesn't install, doesn't start. that SUCKS.

i suspect this happens on almost all windows flavors. been an on and mostly OFF problem for a LONG time now.

and i'm not alone, see here:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87284

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92325

[slate]

I consider it a sideeffect since Microsoft tightend uo security in Vista; and since in Windows 7... the UAC debacle etc...

And now I will quote myself from one of the threads you link to:

"If you are on Vista or Windows 7 remember to start the Control Panel app as an administrator; right click on "Control Panel" in Start Menu and choose "Run as administrator"

Otherwise it will not work, and no error message is shown."

I have had no problem on various Vista or Windows 7 PC's

[MrSinatra]

thanks slate, i found this as well:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91385

however, that does not explain:

1. how anyone is supposed to know that?
2. the bad behavior of the apply button

and so i think something need to be done so as to not needlessly and pointless
frustrate users going forward!

i mean, seriously, its in the slimtray control panel, which is meant for dummies, but its not explained and therefore does not work UNLESS you know the secret handshake! BAD DESIGN.

[bits]

This has been reported and reported and reported.

This thread contains the fix and some details of the behavior:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87819

Another thread for reference:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89710

Its actually really simple for Logitech to fix.
I believe under Windows Vista, Microsoft had set up a compatibility shim for Squeezebox server so it always just ran as admin. Microsoft has since removed their fix for SBS in Windows 7 or the SBS version now exceeds what the shim was created to support. Logitech must now make SBS/LMS correctly request admin rights when required.

[dave1701]

This has been reported and reported and reported.

This thread contains the fix and some details of the behavior:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87819

Another thread for reference:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89710

Its actually really simple for Logitech to fix.
I believe under Windows Vista, Microsoft had set up a compatibility shim for Squeezebox server so it always just ran as admin. Microsoft has since removed their fix for SBS in Windows 7 or the SBS version now exceeds what the shim was created to support. Logitech must now make SBS/LMS correctly request admin rights when required.

Unfortunately that can't be the answer to my problem because I am running XP service pack 3.

[MrSinatra]

dave, did you run slimtray as admin? b/c in my exp, that does allow you to then get LMS to run as a service.

[MrSinatra]

this has been addressed in the newer nightlys. thx to mherger!

[bits]

Gah! I knew I should have baby sat this bug more.

That fix is horrible and isnt a fix.

I have suggested a correct fix to the problem in the existing bug.

[mherger]

> That fix is horrible and isnt a fix.

Agreed, it's not a fix.

> I have suggested a correct fix to the problem in the existing bug.

How does that solve the issue that Windows 7 wouldn't ask for elevated
permissions? What you suggest behaves exactly the same on my machine as
what we already had before: if the user isn't part of the administrator's
group, the execution fails.

I'll be happy to implement a real fix if somebody can find one. But
according to MS this isn't possible in all cases any longer. See the link
in the bug report.

--

Michael

[MrSinatra]

Gah! I knew I should have baby sat this bug more.

That fix is horrible and isnt a fix.

I have suggested a correct fix to the problem in the existing bug.

well, is it not better than the nothing that was before? what bothered me the most is that a solution or workaround existed, but there were no clues to find it! at least now someone will have a clue...