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[djcwardog]

Thanks for keeping this forum up and running. I got a Squeezebox Touch for Christmas and I am enjoying it. I did find that the first thing it wanted to do was update its software - over the wireless connection. That failed several times so I plugged it into my network with an ethernet cable and let it initialize right away. Now it is back in the listening room with wi-fi used to stream my music. Now I need to search the forum for known issues with it "buffering" quite often and interrupting my listening. I am sure that this is known and addressed by all you experts out there.

Again - thanks for the resource and I will enjoy getting up to speed with my new tech device.

[pski]

Thanks for keeping this forum up and running. I got a Squeezebox Touch for Christmas and I am enjoying it. I did find that the first thing it wanted to do was update its software - over the wireless connection. That failed several times so I plugged it into my network with an ethernet cable and let it initialize right away. Now it is back in the listening room with wi-fi used to stream my music. Now I need to search the forum for known issues with it "buffering" quite often and interrupting my listening. I am sure that this is known and addressed by all you experts out there.

Again - thanks for the resource and I will enjoy getting up to speed with my new tech device.

Most common streaming solutions:

1. Turn off the "B" radio in your AP by selecting "G-only" connections.
2. Move the AP away from any electrical sources (desktop computer, CRT monitor/tv.) Locate the AP on top of rather than under furniture.
3. If you have a laptop handy, install inSSIDer and check for bleed from neighbor's AP's that may be on the same channel. Even if there aren't conflicts, move your AP to the lowest "free" channel.
4. Arrange the AP and SBT so they are as close to "line of sight" as possible and distance the SBT from your amplifier(s) if you can.

Welcome to the club.

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[toby10]

Is your server running LMS wired to your router? What is the WiFi signal strength on Touch?
Touch > Settings > Advanced > Diagnostics > Wireless Info

Another quick test, move Touch much closer to the WiFi router, see if it fixes the buffering issue. No speakers or amp needed, Touch display will tell you if it is buffering.

[cdeford]

I've had a more or less constant buffering issue with just one station. I assumed that the problem was the station somehow. Can buffering problems just be down to whatever a station is pumping out? Sometimes with a radio station you get a choice of formats (usually wma or mp3). Is one preferable over the other for good streaming?

[toby10]

Yes, can be the station itself. For a test go to Internet Radio > Search > *enter text* LINN, select one of the LINN stations (jazz, radio, classical), let it play for a while.
Does that stream buffer at all?

[emalvick]

There are a lot of things that can cause problems with buffering.

Do you have a relatively fast download speed capability from your internet provider? With my previous provider, I was only getting about 2 Mbps, which was ok, but if I was using the internet connection for anything in addition to the streaming, buffering would be an issue.

I don't necessarily endorse the change your router to G only unless you know you have no B devices. I realize that B devices aren't common anymore, but changing that is only going to have a minor affect on the connection anyway.

I guess you are listening to your own music (as opposed to a radio-stream), so the question of distance from the router to computer or receiver can be an issue.

Another issue related to the bleed can be if you have cordless phones around your house on a similar frequency as your router. My house was close enough to my neighbor that their cordless phone would interupt my signal (could tell by the ring of their phone and an immediate loss of signal from my router).

[cdeford]

Yes, can be the station itself. For a test go to Internet Radio > Search > *enter text* LINN, select one of the LINN stations (jazz, radio, classical), let it play for a while.
Does that stream buffer at all?

Yes, LINN stations are re-buffering every few seconds. The other station I mentioned was typically re-buffering at the end of a song.

[toby10]

Yes, LINN stations are re-buffering every few seconds. The other station I mentioned was typically re-buffering at the end of a song.

Then you have a network issue. Where the problem lies is not known. LINN is 320kbps, should be very simple to stream via WiFi.

What is your ISP service kbps?
Are you using G WiFi?
WiFi signal strength on player?
Are you connecting to LMS on your computer or MySB.com online?
If using LMS is the server computer wired?
Are you using the basic home network? (one router for all devices?)
Any double WiFi hops in your network? (two devices in the network path are WiFi?)

[toby10]

cdeford,

Another simple test: Go to Internet Radio > Search > WHYY
There are two stations, 24k and 56k, play either, see if it buffers

[cdeford]

What is your ISP service kbps? 24 meg broadband max, but typically a quarter of this.
Are you using G WiFi? Set to B/G
WiFi signal strength on player? Signal currently 100%, but I often see it around 80%
Are you connecting to LMS on your computer or MySB.com online? On my PC
If using LMS is the server computer wired? Yes
Are you using the basic home network? (one router for all devices?) Yes
Any double WiFi hops in your network? (two devices in the network path are WiFi?) Yes, 2

However, WHYY doesn't buffer, and now LINN isn't either. I surmise that other things I was doing on the PC caused the buffering and that had I connected through MySB.com, it wouldn't have buffered. Does that sound likely? Either that, or my ISP was having issues. LINN is playing fine now.

On a perhaps related note, I noted some skips in some FLAC files I was playing on the Radio (like it missed a bar or played one on top of another). I checked the files and they are fine. Is that likely to be another resource issue? I mentioned elsewhere that my PC is old. If that's the problem then that's fine.