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    Another Database Query & SugarCube/MusicIP/Genpuid Question:

    As far as I can tell, MusicIP is unable to create mixes of higher res (24bit and perhaps 48KHz and higher material) with standard red book sourced tracks. I thought it might be a good idea to:
    1)Make 16bit 44.1 KHz copies of all my high res material
    2) Analyze these by MusicIP
    3) Copy the 2 MusicIP generated tags back to the original high-res files.

    Would this approach work? If yes,
    (a) is there a quick way to find all high res material from SBS using the Database Query Plugin? and
    (b)what is the best method to down convert these high-res files on a Mac, or is it better to switch over to windows and use Foobar2k or dbPoweramp?

    TIA

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    I am going to answer my own question. Copying over the MusicIP tags from 16bit versions of the tracks to the original 24bit versions allow the HD versions to be mixed properly by MusicIP. You do have to remove the tracks from the MusicIP database and rescan it for it to work. I simply deleted my entire MusicIP database and did a fresh scan. Obviously only works if your tags are archived into the files.

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    I've found the same issue with Hi-Res music and MIP. Your information is very useful so I may give it a try.

    Interestingly though...
    I fingerprint tracks on a MacBook Pro then copy them over to a headless Linux NAS for streaming. When I copy them over, I scan them into the local (NAS) MIP database. The Hi-Res files that haven't been fingerprinted require validation by the headless MIP and seem to scan into the database OK - i.e. they appear to be mixable.

    Bob
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobertuk View Post
    Interestingly though...
    I fingerprint tracks on a MacBook Pro then copy them over to a headless Linux NAS for streaming. When I copy them over, I scan them into the local (NAS) MIP database. The Hi-Res files that haven't been fingerprinted require validation by the headless MIP and seem to scan into the database OK - i.e. they appear to be mixable.

    Bob
    Yes they may appear mixable, but have you looked at the mixes they generate? In my experience a 24bit seed track will generate a mix of only 24bit tracks and not 16bit tracks that may be musically more appropriate for the mix. The tag swapping approach seems to have solved that problem for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil View Post
    Yes they may appear mixable, but have you looked at the mixes they generate? In my experience a 24bit seed track will generate a mix of only 24bit tracks and not 16bit tracks that may be musically more appropriate for the mix. The tag swapping approach seems to have solved that problem for me.
    I haven't had a close look at how the mixes work but had guessed that was the case - none of the Hi-Res files seem to appear in any of my MIP/SC mixes.

    Thanks for confirming - I'll have a go at changing the fingerprints when I have time.

    Bob
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    1 x Radio
    1 x Boom
    Lavry DA-10 DAC
    HP PC as main Media Server
    QNAP TS-509 3.6.1 running SSOTS v4.14
    Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM
    Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp
    Behringer DEQ2496
    Linn Isobarik DMS

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