Squeezebox Server --> Media Server but... what's really new?

**Davidg1** · 2011-11-04, 05:28

I'm sure a cost reduction on the Touch is now possible. Touch screens are now ten-a-penny and I'm sure the SoC required would now be much less.

But, DLNA is best for video and photos IMO. "Real" network music players cannot use it. Eg, synchronised playback is not possible with DLNA. If Logitech want to compete with all the cheap DLNA kit out there then, yes they can drop the Squeezeboxes. But if they want to offer a more upmarket, higher margin, somewhat cheaper, competitor to Sonos et al. Squeezebox is still the way to go.

**garym** · 2011-11-04, 05:35

Originally Posted by JezA

Well, with LMS turned off my Touch has been playing for the last 10 minutes from Asset UPnP, so it seems to me that while LMS is involved in making the Touch visible as a UPnP renderer, it doesn't seem to be involved in moving the data, so the Touch must be acting as a UPnP renderer and 'asking' for data from the (Asset) server.

So, the Transporter is eol, a Revue is a third of the cost of a Touch and does video ... how long will the Touch last?

can you synch multiple players using Asset UPnP?
I didn't think so. And synching capability is a critical feature for folks doing whole house audio with these things (Squeezeboxes and Sonos are all I know about that do this)

**JezA** · 2011-11-04, 06:37

I believe the Linn DS family allow perfect synchronisation of their UPnP renderers, and work fine with Asset UPnP, so synchronising is possible over a UPnP network if you know what you are doing ...

http://forums.linn.co.uk/bb/showthread.php?tid=11105

Linn have also got some clever features, such as allowing any audio to appear as a UPnP source, and therefore be streamable.

**garym** · 2011-11-04, 06:40

Originally Posted by JezA

I believe the Linn DS family allow perfect synchronisation of their UPnP renderers, and work fine with Asset UPnP, so synchronising is possible over a UPnP network if you know what you are doing ...

http://forums.linn.co.uk/bb/showthread.php?tid=11105

Linn have also got some clever features, such as allowing any audio to appear as a UPnP source, and therefore be streamable.

I'm a little familiar with Linn (know some users). Their software has generally been a disaster, but there are some workarounds, and perhaps it is improving.

**JezA** · 2011-11-04, 07:23

Wouldn't exactly call Squeezecenter or LMS well made or well designed or very user-friendly software either .. but my point was the sychronizing UPnP renderers does appear to be possible.

**Mnyb** · 2011-11-04, 07:57

Originally Posted by JezA

Well, with LMS turned off my Touch has been playing for the last 10 minutes from Asset UPnP, so it seems to me that while LMS is involved in making the Touch visible as a UPnP renderer, it doesn't seem to be involved in moving the data, so the Touch must be acting as a UPnP renderer and 'asking' for data from the (Asset) server.

So, the Transporter is eol, a Revue is a third of the cost of a Touch and does video ... how long will the Touch last?

Really ? can you build new playlist with different music, choosing other albums ?

**usbethjim** · 2011-11-04, 08:46

Originally Posted by Mnyb

all 20 revue owners are going to be pleased

+1 LOL

Jim

**erland** · 2011-11-04, 10:08

Originally Posted by JezA

I believe the Linn DS family allow perfect synchronisation of their UPnP renderers, and work fine with Asset UPnP, so synchronising is possible over a UPnP network if you know what you are doing ...

http://forums.linn.co.uk/bb/showthread.php?tid=11105

Linn have also got some clever features, such as allowing any audio to appear as a UPnP source, and therefore be streamable.

Isn't sychronization only working between Linn renderers ?

If I've understood it correctly synching is not possible via UPnP protocol but if the renderers also talk with each other using a proprietary protocol it can work, I suppose this is what Linn is doing ?

Maybe the Squeezebox UPnP renderer which is offered through LMS also support synchronization ? But only with other Squeezebox devices.

**pippin** · 2011-11-04, 10:46

Originally Posted by JezA

I believe the Linn DS family allow perfect synchronisation of their UPnP renderers, and work fine with Asset UPnP, so synchronising is possible over a UPnP network if you know what you are doing ...

http://forums.linn.co.uk/bb/showthread.php?tid=11105

Linn have also got some clever features, such as allowing any audio to appear as a UPnP source, and therefore be streamable.

A lot of companies use UPnP for the source and then do proprietary stuff to add things like sync.
Raumfeld would be another one, even Sonos can do this. But it's no longer UPnP then and doesn't interoperate with other vendor's devices.

There is definitely no way to do sync with UPnP if you just use the standard.

**PasTim** · 2011-11-04, 11:12

I can't get the LMS UPnP/DLNA server to show up on any of my devices (Humax PVR and other PCs). I can see photos on my Touch (not sure why I'd want to, but it proves my library is configured into LMS).

The plugin is installed. Do I have to do anything else special to get the media server to show up?

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