Alien BBC on Mac OS X instructions(Longish)

[mark sayers]

did anyone manage to get this to work?

Is there a compiled / complete version anywhere for download? My
knowledge of terminals and perl is less than zero....

[Dave Scott]

Jules

Ok - some progress

Revisited the whole install - corrected a couple of issues - downloaded
latest version of alien.

1. Now got streaming working at CLI level - audio etc sounds ok

(./alienstream
rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra)
(/sw/bin/lame -q 9 -cbr -b 320 --resample 44100 -S tmp.wav - |
/sw/bin/madplay - )

no more incrementing "tmp.wav" file ( did see a xine-output wave file -
but fixed to approx 7.6 megs -> not incrementing in size )

2. when I try & run ./transcoder_proxy.pl get following error message

Couldn't bind to port 5123 at ./transcoder_proxy.pl line 42.

At Softsqueeze level - all the menu's work etc BUT no audio

At the web page level everything works ok - ie see HitchHikers come up
- entry in playlist ok - BUT no audio

At CLI level audio was ok for about 5 minutes or so - but now running
into what sounds like skipping / washing machine wa wa effect ..

anyway its getting there

(transcoder_proxy.pl

use alienstream = 1 doesn't produce audio ..

if try "use aliensteam = 0 don't get any audio either )

cheers

Dave Scott



On 11 Oct 2004, at 17:57, mark sayers wrote:

> did anyone manage to get this to work?
>
> Is there a compiled / complete version anywhere for download? My
> knowledge of terminals and perl is less than zero....
>
>
>
>

[Dave Scott]

Ok

wa wa effect may have just been the music - sounds like I had "hit"
the rap / hip hop show :-)


On 16 Oct 2004, at 11:40, Dave Scott wrote:

> Jules
>
> Ok - some progress
>
> Revisited the whole install - corrected a couple of issues -
> downloaded latest version of alien.
>
> 1. Now got streaming working at CLI level - audio etc sounds ok
>
> (./alienstream
> rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/
> r1_dsat_g2.ra)
> (/sw/bin/lame -q 9 -cbr -b 320 --resample 44100 -S tmp.wav - |
> /sw/bin/madplay - )
>
> no more incrementing "tmp.wav" file ( did see a xine-output wave file
> - but fixed to approx 7.6 megs -> not incrementing in size )
>
> 2. when I try & run ./transcoder_proxy.pl get following error message
>
> Couldn't bind to port 5123 at ./transcoder_proxy.pl line 42.
>
> At Softsqueeze level - all the menu's work etc BUT no audio
>
> At the web page level everything works ok - ie see HitchHikers come up
> - entry in playlist ok - BUT no audio
>
> At CLI level audio was ok for about 5 minutes or so - but now running
> into what sounds like skipping / washing machine wa wa effect ..
>
> anyway its getting there
>
> (transcoder_proxy.pl
>
> use alienstream = 1 doesn't produce audio ..
>
> if try "use aliensteam = 0 don't get any audio either )
>
> cheers
>
> Dave Scott
>

[Jules Taplin]

Hi Dave.

The skipping effect isn't unheard of. I've heard it on occasion, but not
often, and very rarely (if at all) since I moved over to using mplayer
instead of alienstream (don't know if that's practical for MacOS/X users).

I've currently got it down to a problem in the codecs themselves, as I can't
imagine how it might go wrong more widely.



-- Jules


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Scott" <kiwidave (AT) starhub (DOT) net.sg>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 4:45 AM
Subject: [slim] Alien BBC on Mac OS X instructions(Longish)


> Ok
>
> wa wa effect may have just been the music - sounds like I had "hit" the
> rap / hip hop show :-)
>
>
> On 16 Oct 2004, at 11:40, Dave Scott wrote:
>
>> Jules
>>
>> Ok - some progress
>>
>> Revisited the whole install - corrected a couple of issues - downloaded
>> latest version of alien.
>>
>> 1. Now got streaming working at CLI level - audio etc sounds ok
>>
>> (./alienstream
>> rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/ r1_dsat_g2.ra)
>> (/sw/bin/lame -q 9 -cbr -b 320 --resample 44100 -S tmp.wav - |
>> /sw/bin/madplay - )
>>
>> no more incrementing "tmp.wav" file ( did see a xine-output wave file -
>> but fixed to approx 7.6 megs -> not incrementing in size )
>>
>> 2. when I try & run ./transcoder_proxy.pl get following error message
>>
>> Couldn't bind to port 5123 at ./transcoder_proxy.pl line 42.
>>
>> At Softsqueeze level - all the menu's work etc BUT no audio
>>
>> At the web page level everything works ok - ie see HitchHikers come up -
>> entry in playlist ok - BUT no audio
>>
>> At CLI level audio was ok for about 5 minutes or so - but now running
>> into what sounds like skipping / washing machine wa wa effect ..
>>
>> anyway its getting there
>>
>> (transcoder_proxy.pl
>>
>> use alienstream = 1 doesn't produce audio ..
>>
>> if try "use aliensteam = 0 don't get any audio either )
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Dave Scott
>>
>
>

[Daniel Cohen]

On 16/10/04 at 10:43 am +0100, Jules Taplin wrote
>I moved over to using mplayer instead of alienstream (don't know if
>that's practical for MacOS/X users

mplayer certainly exists for OS X.
--
Daniel Cohen

[Dave Scott]

Jules

might be able to use mplayer - have a problem at the moment in that it
gets stuck at 19.83% of buffer full ..

more importantly need to sort this error message - believe this is why
no audio in softsqueeze.

error message is:

when I try & run ./transcoder_proxy.pl get following error message

Couldn't bind to port 5123 at ./transcoder_proxy.pl line 42.

any ideas - tried changing port to 900 didn't work either

cheers

dave

On 16 Oct 2004, at 17:43, Jules Taplin wrote:

> Hi Dave.
>
> The skipping effect isn't unheard of. I've heard it on occasion, but
> not often, and very rarely (if at all) since I moved over to using
> mplayer instead of alienstream (don't know if that's practical for
> MacOS/X users).
>
> I've currently got it down to a problem in the codecs themselves, as I
> can't imagine how it might go wrong more widely.
>
>
>
> -- Jules
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Scott"
> <kiwidave (AT) starhub (DOT) net.sg>
> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 4:45 AM
> Subject: [slim] Alien BBC on Mac OS X instructions(Longish)
>

[Jules Taplin]

Excellent. It might be a winner, then.

Can MacOS/X mplayer play realplayer streams? It's trivial to check - just
issue an 'mplayer -playlist <address of a .ram file>', and see if noise
comes out.

If it can, then it's very likely that alienBBC could run in mplayer mode on
MacOS/X, too. That'd be dead cool, as it's _MUCH_ less bother than
alienstream.

-- Jules

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Cohen" <danco (AT) f2s (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 1:47 PM
Subject: [slim] Alien BBC on Mac OS X instructions(Longish)


> On 16/10/04 at 10:43 am +0100, Jules Taplin wrote
>>I moved over to using mplayer instead of alienstream (don't know if that's
>>practical for MacOS/X users
>
> mplayer certainly exists for OS X.
> --
> Daniel Cohen
>

[Jules Taplin]

Hi Dave.

The 'can't bind to 5123' message is normally because there's already a
transcoder process running. You need to find them all ('ps' is probably your
friend, but I'm not a MacOS/X expert), and kill them all off. Then start one
that you can watch. That's normally quite revealing. The other major
question is normally 'can it find a copy of LAME'?


-- Jules

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Scott" <kiwidave (AT) starhub (DOT) net.sg>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 1:54 PM
Subject: [slim] Alien BBC on Mac OS X instructions(Longish)


> Jules
>
> might be able to use mplayer - have a problem at the moment in that it
> gets stuck at 19.83% of buffer full ..
>
> more importantly need to sort this error message - believe this is why no
> audio in softsqueeze.
>
> error message is:
>
> when I try & run ./transcoder_proxy.pl get following error message
>
> Couldn't bind to port 5123 at ./transcoder_proxy.pl line 42.
>
> any ideas - tried changing port to 900 didn't work either
>
> cheers
>
> dave
>
> On 16 Oct 2004, at 17:43, Jules Taplin wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave.
>>
>> The skipping effect isn't unheard of. I've heard it on occasion, but not
>> often, and very rarely (if at all) since I moved over to using mplayer
>> instead of alienstream (don't know if that's practical for MacOS/X
>> users).
>>
>> I've currently got it down to a problem in the codecs themselves, as I
>> can't imagine how it might go wrong more widely.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Jules
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Scott" <kiwidave (AT) starhub (DOT) net.sg>
>> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 4:45 AM
>> Subject: [slim] Alien BBC on Mac OS X instructions(Longish)
>>
>
>

[Dave Scott]

Jules

ps is correct - but when i use it there is no transcoder process
running - cannot start it :-)

Even checked using OSX activity viewer - all processes - no sign of any
transcoder process

will have a lok at the transcoder_proxy.pl file again but i believe its
not able to start

cheers

dave

On 16 Oct 2004, at 22:54, Jules Taplin wrote:

> Hi Dave.
>
> The 'can't bind to 5123' message is normally because there's already a
> transcoder process running. You need to find them all ('ps' is
> probably your friend, but I'm not a MacOS/X expert), and kill them all
> off. Then start one that you can watch. That's normally quite
> revealing. The other major question is normally 'can it find a copy of
> LAME'?
>
>
> -- Jules

[Daniel Cohen]

On 16/10/04 at 3:53 pm +0100, Jules Taplin wrote
>Excellent. It might be a winner, then.
>
>Can MacOS/X mplayer play realplayer streams? It's trivial to check -
>just issue an 'mplayer -playlist <address of a .ram file>', and see
>if noise comes out.

I couldn't quite work out what to do.

There's an mplayer for OS X with a GUI, which is easily downloadable.
But it wouldn't play a ram file.

There's an unstable version of mplayer in the fink packages. But that
refused to download using Fink Commander.


There's a version described as "new binaries with full RealCodec
support" but this was rather complicated, and I couldn't work out
what to download.
--
Daniel Cohen