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    Quote Originally Posted by andyg View Post
    BTW you can certainly make more than 2 requests at a time, maybe 4 or 8 or something would be reasonable. But unlimited? Forget it.
    Andy, perhaps you can tell what I need to turn on in SBS logging, in order to track how many incoming connections are really being made?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewFG View Post
    64000 tracks eh? Not shabby; not at all...
    35,000. You can only use high ports.
    And I've got users that have 10 times as many tracks.
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    Following is a quote from the PlugPlayer author...
    It makes a large number of requests; I don't think it is bound explicitly to any specific number. It looks at each container that is rendered on screen, and if it doesn't have artwork, it will browse the first 10 entries in that container to see if they have artwork. If not, it will look in the first container, and so on. It is limited to only looking at the first 10 items and in the first container, so it will only browse a small subset of a given server looking for art.
    So it is only loading 10 folders worth of art at any one time. i.e. not an unlimited amount :-) But since folders can recursively contain other folders within them, it sounds like it still could be downloading 10^2 art images in the worst case...

    Can anyone please suggest what logging I should turn on in SBS, in order to track incoming server GET requests, so I can investigate and see where it may actually be tripping up?
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    >> It makes a large number of requests; I don't think it is bound
    >> explicitly to any specific number. It looks at each container that is
    >> rendered on screen, and if it doesn't have artwork, it will browse the
    >> first 10 entries in that container to see if they have artwork. If not,
    >> it will look in the first container, and so on. It is limited to only
    >> looking at the first 10 items and in the first container, so it will
    >> only browse a small subset of a given server looking for art.

    > So it is only loading 10 folders worth of art at any one time. i.e. not
    > an unlimited amount :-) But since folders can recursively contain other
    > folders within them, it sounds like it still could be downloading 10^2
    > art images in the worst case...


    I did notice this behaviour with PP too, when working on our DLNA service.
    But rather than crashing the server I noticed PP would die at some point
    (at least on the iPad).

    > Can anyone please suggest what logging I should turn on in SBS, in
    > order to track incoming server GET requests, so I can investigate and
    > see where it may actually be tripping up?


    Try --debug artwork=info (or debug): it would show every artwork request
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    Quote Originally Posted by mherger View Post
    ... rather than crashing the server I noticed PP would die at some point (at least on the iPad)...
    I guess the question of "who dies first" depends on whether the server has more horsepower than the client. I guess an iPad could outrun an old single core Windows based NAS (especially if it is running other tasks), but against a new high end multi- core server it would definietly be the other way round...
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    Regardless, it's clearly a problem with PP and it should be fixed to be a friendlier client, wouldn't you say?

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    > mherger;659939 Wrote:
    >> ... rather than crashing the server I noticed PP would die at some point
    >> (at least on the iPad)...I guess the question of "who dies first"
    >> depends on whether the server

    > has more horsepower than the client. I guess an iPad could outrun an
    > old single core Windows based NAS (especially if it is running other
    > tasks), but against a new high end multi- core server it would
    > definietly be the other way round...


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    Quote Originally Posted by andyg View Post
    Regardless, it's clearly a problem with PP and it should be fixed to be a friendlier client, wouldn't you say?
    Definitely. Can't believe this will work very often, not only with LMS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andyg View Post
    Regardless, it's clearly a problem with PP and it should be fixed to be a friendlier client, wouldn't you say?
    I am in contact with the developer, and have agreed to do some more tests, and based on what I discover, I will make (neutral) recommendations as to what needs to be improved.
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