7.6.0 and 7.6.1 has ruined my Squeezebox/Mac experience

[slate]

Haven't had any problems with the newest official release; the 7.6 tree has definitely lowered scan time for me. Just ran a complete rescan: the total time was 5:28. That's on an Atom server and for a library of about 8200 songs in 255 albums. On all the 7.* versions before 7.6*, the same scan used to take around 15 minutes.

I have a similar setup; Atom, win7, 9000 library and my track times have also improved.
7.3 21 min
7.5 16 min
7.6. 5 min

I have been a happy camper since I joined in; and I have been running the 7.6 beta track since it started. Granted I have never used any 6.* releases and can't attest to how rosy the world was back then.

In regard of scanning times many see an improvement and then some see that it becomes worse. So far there has been no real pattern. But I am sure that it is a question of combination between:
- OS
- CPU type; eg 761 artwork scan on x86 big improvement
- internal/external storage; how storage is mounted
- track format; eg Andy stated that fixing gapless for mp3+cue gave worse scan time for theese files.

And I agree with Mnyb that some of the problems for MAC/iTunes user are iTunes. At least that is the impression that I have got from following the threads. Some indicated that the latest iTunes brooke somethings or it could be bad handling of the music library itself, an example http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89789

[Soulman]

I dont use iTunes at all. And I have no doubt, that users with some 10.000 Files or so will never see any problems. Everything works fine with small amounts of files (Even iTunes - LOL)

I do have a somewhat bigger collection.

So maybe the ones with the problems are the ones with larger collections.

[kmr]

The MAC experience ?

I'm I generelizing to much by assuming that Mac users are also very often are iTunes users ?
and that the iTunes integration is the more failure phrone part, the server itself usually runs fine ?
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I'm offering no help or solution, sorry I'm just intrested in why the experience differ so much.

I got my first SB3 in spring 2007 (post-Logitech but my unit is a black SD-branded one). I had recently switched over to Mac from PC, so I of course ran SBS (slimserver in those days) on my new Mac with MacOX 10.4. I started off using iTunes integration. At one point I had problems with album art, but once I found an AppleScript to embed album art in the AAC files, no problems.

Eventually I re-ripped all of my CDs to FLAC for SBS, then created AACs for iTunes and stopped using iTunes integration. I have zero problems.

Not trying to say that people's problems don't exist, just that my anecdotal evidence is that SBS and Mac are a great combination, so let's not all overgeneralize...

[Soulman]

And how many tracks do you have?

I personally thinks its not a "SBS with Mac" problem. I think after reading several threads in this forum that it is a "SBS 7.6x with large collection" problem.

[garym]

And how many tracks do you have?

I personally thinks its not a "SBS with Mac" problem. I think after reading several threads in this forum that it is a "SBS 7.6x with large collection" problem.

hmmm, not sure. Don't know how "large collection" is defined. I have about 65,000 tracks and don't have any issues with 7.6.1 (on a windows machine).

[atrocity]

hmmm, not sure. Don't know how "large collection" is defined. I have about 65,000 tracks and don't have any issues with 7.6.1 (on a windows machine).

75,399 tracks under Ubuntu 11.04 running 7.61 since Saturday with no problems. Scanning is much, much faster than 7.5.4 for me.

[Soulman]

@ garym: Large collection means: more then 100.000 files.

After some digging I figure that scanning time and the overall performance of 7.6.1. should be better then older SBS versions (f.e. 7,5x) if you have a collection under some 70.000 files or so. It may be the same around 100 K files and then rapidly degrades. This seems to be due to the change from MySQL to SQLite done with 7.6.1

So basically: you both (garym + atrocity) - as probably most other users - might benefit from 7.6.1!
But users with collections larger then 100 K files not. For them 7.6.1 is slower, the larger ones library is the worse it gets. Beyond some 250 K files 7.6.1 gets unusable, while older versions also take longer to scan, but are all in all still responsive.

Check here for details:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showth...407#post656407

[pski]

Not just you. I haven't found a successful platform and I've been using for years.

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[nsfw]

Not just you. I haven't found a successful platform and I've been using for years.

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Just to chime in because people only complain when things don't work.. 7.6.1 works great for me in Lion. In fact I've been using SqueezeServer for several years now(Since the radio came out?) And never had too much issue. I update to the latest and greatest bleeding edge too.
It might help that my mac mini does nothing but itunes and squeeze, so no other crap on there.