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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegaspode View Post
    When you point a Sonos to a new SMB folder - is the user aware of some scanning process as well (i.e. some "please wait until I can show you all artists") ?

    Without scanning (on I guess a rather slow SMB connection) how would they be able to fill their menus?
    Don't they do some kind of scanning when you add a SMB folder to the library ?
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    Sounds kind of similar to how SBS works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by umapati View Post
    Just a silly question being newbie using SQ touch..What will happen if worst come worst Logitech people shutdown their SQ support..will we able to play Internet radio OR PC music with the server installed on our PC or SQ touch (tiny sbs)..?
    I am asking this question as we have already lost money in worldspace radio..So is it possible to use SQ touch lifetime without any further support ??
    Yes!, at least as long as you run your own server.
    I don't know if the touch as a standalone-system requires MySqueezebox.com. But in any case: I don't think Logitech will/can shut down mySB.com for a couple of years, even if the pull the plug on the productline.

    But development is still being done on the software, so don't worry too much.
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    Yes you could use your SB Touch indefinitely if Logitech vanished tomorrow. Only the mysqueezebox.com side of things would stop working. You could still use it for local music playback and internet radio.

    You would lose the various services like Naptser, Pandora etc Some of those could be restored by third party add ons, others not. Someone would also need to develop a new podcast plugin for the Touch and the Radio (I expect such a plugin would appear in a couple of days if Logitech went away).
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    SBS would continue to work as now, but you could not update your OS platform. So if the last SBS version is for Win7, you could not update your SBS server computer to Win8 and expect it to function. I'm just using Win as an example, pick your OS.

    Internet Radio would work but on a very limited basis as far as the UI and menus. The menu items on the player are derived and managed by MySB.com. So if MySB.com goes away so does your existing menu navigation for such streaming. At least I believe that is how it all works. Obviously all Apps/Services would not function if MySB.com is gone.

    But you could cut & paste any basic URL stream into SBS server then save it as a Favorite and these should work fine even with no MySB.com around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toby10 View Post
    So if the last SBS version is for Win7, you could not update your SBS server computer to Win8 and expect it to function. I'm just using Win as an example, pick your OS.
    The likelihood of the current version of SBS not working in Win8 is fairly low, Microsoft go to great lengths to preserve backward compatibility between versions (except sometimes when it comes to drivers for hardware). The chances of any compatibility problems that crop up due to a Windows upgrade not being able to be easily worked around and solved by the community are basically zero.

    Pretty much the same applies to OSX and Linux (or though in the case of OSX backwards compatibility issues are more likely to occur, but just as easy to fix).

    There really is very little worry over SBS permanently breaking after a future OS update.
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    andy,
    Yeah, could be. Software is not my strong point.
    I'm just basing that on the fact that every PC/Mac OS update creates new issues with SBS for some users. How much of the fix for these update glitches are resolved on the SBS end vs the user making tweaks on his end I dunno.
    But even user tweaks and fixes would become much more difficult to find the answers too if Logitech really pulled the plug on the entire SB concept as I'd guess that would also mean shutting down support forums for a defunct product.

    I think there is much more to come from SB/Logitech, in both hardware & software, myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toby10 View Post
    if Logitech really pulled the plug on the entire SB concept as I'd guess that would also mean shutting down support forums for a defunct product.
    If this forum shut down today, someone else would start a new one tomorrow. And if they didn't, I'd start one on the day after tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizen28 View Post
    So, what are the next pretenders to the throne? What's the hardware? What's the software?
    If we are talking big companies, I believe the companies which might release something are:

    Apple:
    They soon have the iCloud and since before they have the iTunes Music Store which both will get you easy access to music. They also have stationary players in form of Airport Express and AppleTV and mobile players in form of iPod/iPhone/iPad and computer based players through the Mac of your choice.
    However, Apple is going to be focused on what's possible to sell to the masses, features are going to be limited to what the masses need, it's going to be simple to use and you are going to be forced to comply to their rules to use it. Advanced features and high highend audio quality will probably not be among the provided features. I'm not sure multi room streaming is on the top of their agenda and neither great support for premium services as they want everyone to get the music from their iTunes Music Store.

    Google:
    Google soon have its Google Music service where you get easy access to the music. They will probably only provide software and advertising and let other companies provide the hardware. Their goal is likely to get GoogleTV in the center of our living rooms and possibly also to have some Android based tablets and phones to be able to consume the music from mobile devices. Google is focused at selling advertising and due to this they are going to focus on devices which have an interactive screen (where they can show the advertising), due to this I'm not sure multi room streaming is something they will prioritize. However, they want many customers so supporting many streaming services is probably something they likely will do. Google is likely going to market themselves as the open alternative for those who don't like the closed Apple solution.

    Amazon:
    Amazon offers the their MP3 Music Store where we get easy access to the music, their issue is that they need to either provide their own hardware or partner up with a hardware vendor that can do it for them. Since they are probably more focused at selling the music than developing and selling hardware, I suspect they are only going to provide apps for iOS and Android and possibly GoogleTV if it becames a success. Amazon's business is probably focused at selling the music or cloud storage, the software at the user end is just a way to access it. The problem for Amazon is that if they try to sell a lot through an iOS app they are probably going to be stopped by Apple (who like to get their share of the income) so due to this they will probably invest more in Android/GoogleTV than iOS.

    I've probably missed a lot in the above but I just wanted to give you my current thoughts.

    Now, the issue with all these three companies is that currently I don't believe any of them are focused at what people in this community wants. They are all focused at the masses and not the enthusiasts.

    So I believe that what we are going to see in the near future is products from existing actors (Logitech, Sonos) and from HiFi manufacturers like Linn, Naim and others and possibly also from other small hardware vendors trying to get into the market with media streaming products focused at customers somewhere in-between Hifi and massmarket (where most of the community members of this forum belongs).

    HiFi manufacturers will likely focus more on supporting locally stored music than supporting premium streaming services, mostly because they know that they need high quality music to make their customers get some benefits from their investments in HiFi hardware.

    Sonos is going to continue to be Sonos, easy to use but rather closed if you like to integrate with it.

    It's hard to know what Logitech is going to do, your guess is as good as mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erland View Post
    Don't they do some kind of scanning when you add a SMB folder to the library ?
    Sounds kind of similar to how SBS works.
    Yes they do, but since the only requirement for the server is to have an SMB share, it is a lot more flexible than SBS. Also the scanning has always been a gazillion times faster. They are obviously not storing as much metadata as SBS, but I've always wondered since the days of SS6 how Sonos could scan the same library in a fraction of the time it took SS/SC/SBS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erland View Post
    It's hard to know what Logitech is going to do, your guess is as good as mine.
    My guess is one of these three:
    1. The SB line of products will continue their slow fade-away, until the point of no existence.

    2. Logitech will sell off the product line to someone who will either continue development or somehow gut the company for profit/customerbase/whatever reason.

    3. Logitech will finally get their act together and start marketing the stuff and put development resources into it.

    I think the new CEO will be key in "our" fate. And I also think the ill-fated product called Revue will greatly influence what happens.
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