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    Quote Originally Posted by firedog View Post
    I fall somewhere in the middle.
    I think we all fall somewhere in the middle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride View Post
    I've never used the results of Phil's measurements to declare anything. I personally don't give a rat's behind about measurements.
    Well you really should because measurements are the basis of engineering, engineering built the equipment and that's what we are ALL listening to (like it or not).

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    You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...
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    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride View Post
    Interestingly, in the four pages of discussion that ensued, no one attempted to answer, or at least tackle my original question. Makes me wonder...

    So let's hear it from the Audiophile Assholes. Come on, don't be shy, we all know who you are...
    To answer your question, if you hear a difference it means either:

    1) There is a difference, caused by the equipment and you heard it
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    2) There was in fact no difference but your brain convinced you that there was.
    You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...
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    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride View Post
    So let's hear it from the Audiophile Assholes.
    You're such a nice chap aren't you.
    Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ?
    I SAID ALL OF THEM !

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    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride View Post
    Interestingly, in the four pages of discussion that ensued, no one attempted to answer, or at least tackle my original question. Makes me wonder...
    It made me wonder whether everyone had learnt and taken to heart the maxim "never get into a pissing contest with a skunk." Disappointingly, not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamdea View Post
    It made me wonder whether everyone had learnt and taken to heart the maxim "never get into a pissing contest with a skunk." Disappointingly, not.
    The phrase I've heard is "Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlsstl View Post
    The phrase I've heard is "Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."
    Very good point. Closely related to "never get into a fight with someone uglier than you, as they have less to lose."
    I have always told my kids that they are under no circumstances to play poker with a man named after an American city. Slightly different point though I spose.

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    and the answer to your question is...

    found in at least several responses here. You simply don't want to listen to anyone but yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firedog View Post
    found in at least several responses here. You simply don't want to listen to anyone but yourself.
    Careful. Don't make the classic mistake of assuming that page 5 of an internet discussion has anything to do with the original topic....

    ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by magiccarpetride View Post
    My question: if you can hear a difference, does it, according to the First Audiophile Asshole Law, always mean that something about that component is broken?
    No.


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    Trolling over and out!
    I doubt it.

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