Numptie Appeal for Help Please

[garym]

Hi Gary,
I don't seem to be able to add attachements so here is a 'Copy and Paste' of the above log: -

log removed...

There does appear to be an error line in there but the comment about "Not enough space at ......." puzzles me because I have over 1 TB space available on my two hard drives within this PC. In total the scan results show over 10,000 tracks which I think must be about right.
Hope this makes more sense to you than it does to me.
Thanks again,
Dave.

You gotta love Tschaikovsky and Chuck Berry in the same list...Roll over Beethoven! Not sure about the error, but it appears there are no actual scanning errors, so you probably do have all your music now scanned properly. I note the "foobar" in the directory. Do you also use foobar2000 on the computer. I do as well, and I have foobar and SbS pointed to the same music directory. This way I can compare totals between the two programs and this is a good check on something getting out of wack.

[DaveKen]

You gotta love Tschaikovsky and Chuck Berry in the same list...Roll over Beethoven! Not sure about the error, but it appears there are no actual scanning errors, so you probably do have all your music now scanned properly. I note the "foobar" in the directory. Do you also use foobar2000 on the computer. I do as well, and I have foobar and SbS pointed to the same music directory. This way I can compare totals between the two programs and this is a good check on something getting out of wack.

Hi Gary,
Yep, it's fair to say that I've got eclectic tastes in music but you won't find much post 70s pop in there!! And Yep, there is a fairly close tie-up between foobar and SBS totals, but not exact.
At this point I am again about to expose my numptieness. I know just about enough about PCs and networks to be dangerous and most of what I know has been found from trial and error (the hard way ;-). For background, my home network consists of MM PC, Workstation, Laptop and Netbook and the Netbook and Workstation have USB printers attached to them. We also have a number of wireless iPhones etc attached wirelessly. Occassionally I get a message saying there is an IP Address conflict on my network but it doesn't seem to adversely affect anything AFAIK.
To get to the point, I cannot get my Touch to connect by ethernet now (although it has done successfully in the past). It will connect wirelessly but internet radio stations are intermittent due to frequent pauses whilst it rebuffers. When it did connect by ethernet there was no rebuffering. I have tried to enter the necessary information manually with apparent success in that I get a message confirming the ethernet connection but attempting to access Internet Radio results in a message that it cannot connect to 'mysqueezebox.com'.
Can you tell me an idiot-proof way of identifying my IP Address (192.168.0.6 ??), my Subnet Mask (255.255.255.0 ??), my Gateway IP Address (192.168.0.1 ??), and my DNS Server IP Address (192.168.0 3 ??) - the figures in brackets are the figures I enter to get connected but with which it refuses to connect to 'mysqueezebox.com'. Basically I have no idea what the DNS Server is - which item of kit does the first requirement (IP Address) refer to, which is the DNS Server and how can I find out what their IP Addresses are?
Sorry for the numptieness :-).
Dave.

[garym]

Hi Gary,
Yep, it's fair to say that I've got eclectic tastes in music but you won't find much post 70s pop in there!! And Yep, there is a fairly close tie-up between foobar and SBS totals, but not exact.
At this point I am again about to expose my numptieness. I know just about enough about PCs and networks to be dangerous and most of what I know has been found from trial and error (the hard way ;-). For background, my home network consists of MM PC, Workstation, Laptop and Netbook and the Netbook and Workstation have USB printers attached to them. We also have a number of wireless iPhones etc attached wirelessly. Occassionally I get a message saying there is an IP Address conflict on my network but it doesn't seem to adversely affect anything AFAIK.
To get to the point, I cannot get my Touch to connect by ethernet now (although it has done successfully in the past). It will connect wirelessly but internet radio stations are intermittent due to frequent pauses whilst it rebuffers. When it did connect by ethernet there was no rebuffering. I have tried to enter the necessary information manually with apparent success in that I get a message confirming the ethernet connection but attempting to access Internet Radio results in a message that it cannot connect to 'mysqueezebox.com'.
Can you tell me an idiot-proof way of identifying my IP Address (192.168.0.6 ??), my Subnet Mask (255.255.255.0 ??), my Gateway IP Address (192.168.0.1 ??), and my DNS Server IP Address (192.168.0 3 ??) - the figures in brackets are the figures I enter to get connected but with which it refuses to connect to 'mysqueezebox.com'. Basically I have no idea what the DNS Server is - which item of kit does the first requirement (IP Address) refer to, which is the DNS Server and how can I find out what their IP Addresses are?
Sorry for the numptieness :-).
Dave.

Do you have a SINGLE router? How does the internet get to your house? Cable? DSL. And do you have, for example, cable modem feeding a SINGLE router. If you are getting IP conflicts, it may be because you have more than one router on your network handing out IP addresses.

[toby10]

IP conflicts can be very intermittent but also very troublesome to your networked devices. This must be fixed to have a reliable network.

[Phil Leigh]

What do your iPhones connect wirelessly to?

If you don't resolve your IP conflicts, you are in for a world of pain.
On each PC you have, open a command prompt (run - cmd) and type ipconfig... this will tell you how each machine is configured. Each machine needs its own unique IP address, the same subnet and the same default gateway.
See below

[DaveKen]

Do you have a SINGLE router? How does the internet get to your house? Cable? DSL. And do you have, for example, cable modem feeding a SINGLE router. If you are getting IP conflicts, it may be because you have more than one router on your network handing out IP addresses.

Hi Gary, Thanks for your usual help. My internet service is ADSL, said to offer up to 20 Mbps ( by the telephone/internet service provider but not by me!).
This is where it may start to get a little more complicated :-). Perhaps I did not explain myself very well previously - I USED to get the IP Address conflict message but I haven't had it for a while. I did for a brief period try to replace my 'G' type modem router with a cheap 'N' type router, using the 'G' type in place functioning only as a switch. My simple logic was that it might give me a bit more speed and a few more wired ports but I could never get it to function consistantly so I went back to square one - the IP Address problem may well have been related to this brief trial.

What do your iPhones connect wirelessly to?

If you don't resolve your IP conflicts, you are in for a world of pain.
On each PC you have, open a command prompt (run - cmd) and type ipconfig... this will tell you how each machine is configured. Each machine needs its own unique IP address, the same subnet and the same default gateway.
See below

Phil, unless I misunderstand you I find your question about what do my iPhones connect to rather strange but that is more of a criticism of me than it is of you :-). I have a simple home wired and wireless network and the iPhones connect to that,, what else is there?
Regarding the Command Prompt, again this may be where it starts getting complicated. My Vaio MM PC is running Win7 Home Prem. but the other 3 (workstation, laptop and netbook are all running Win XP (fully updated with Service Packs etc.). The workstation is a wired connection only, the laptop is both wired and wireless and the netbook is wireless only.
Running Command Prompt and ipconfig gives the following results on the items running XP: -
All Default Gateways are 192.168.0.1
All Subnet Masks are 255.255.255.0
IP Address on workstation is 192.168.0.9
IP Address on laptop is 192.168.0.3 (ethernet) and 192.168.0.11 (wireless)
IP Address on netbook is 192.168.0.6
Because the Vaio is running Win7 the answers are somewhat different: -
Autoconfig IPv4 Address is 169.254.177.139
Subnet Mask is 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway is ......... (nothing other than a series of dots)
Command Prompt also lists 4 Tunnel Adapters, (3 ISATAP and 1 Teredo Tunneling), none of which means anything to me but may, hopefully, mean something to you :-)
Hopefully you can stick with me for a bit longer.
TIA,
Dave.

[asdti]

Just wanted to second Toby10's comment, so forgive me if you already know this.

Most routers 'out of the box' dynamically allocate IPs to devices as they attach. But that isn't the way it has to be. In your router's setup pages you'll have a way to allocate each device an IP. That is REALLY important on a squeezebox-equipped network and doing it will solve SOOO many potential issues down the road.

The main problem happens when you reboot a connected device or the router, or the router's 'lease' to the device runs out (they usually only have a set time) and the router re-allocates a new IP to the device. Suddenly the squeezebox can't find the squeeze server, or the internet, or etc etc. None of that can happen if you set a fixed Ip to every device.

Have a read of your router's config pages and learn how to allocate all your connected devices their own, fixed IP. Don't get confused with a fixed IP at your ISP - this is a fixed IP on your own network.

Hope that makes sense!


Mark

[garym]

based on what you said, you have a single ROUTER attached to your modem, and the router is handing out IP addresses via DHCP. This is ok. (I do prefer to setup all my nonportable items with a fixed IP address, but we can save that for later if needed).

So it sounds like you now need to get your TOUCH back connected via ethernet instead of Wifi. Where are you connecting your TOUCH via ethernet. Directly to your ROUTER?

[DaveKen]

based on what you said, you have a single ROUTER attached to your modem, and the router is handing out IP addresses via DHCP. This is ok. (I do prefer to setup all my nonportable items with a fixed IP address, but we can save that for later if needed).

So it sounds like you now need to get your TOUCH back connected via ethernet instead of Wifi. Where are you connecting your TOUCH via ethernet. Directly to your ROUTER?

Hi Gary,
ATM I have a Netgear 834G Modem Router as the first 'stop' on my incoming ADSL path. As you may know this has both wired and wireless capability. I have 3 x Cat 5e cable connections going to various rooms in the house and one Cat 5e cable going into the workstation immediately at the side of this 834G. One room cable is unused (currently no components in that room), one
goes into the room where the laptop is situated, into a 'plumbed-in' wall plate and I have the laptop permanently wire connected to this outlet. FWIW the laptop is wireless enabled and the signal in that room is reported a excellent so it is also connected wirelessly.
The last cable is routed into our lounge, which also serves as my main listening room and our main TV viewing room. In this room we have the following items all with RJ45 ethernet sockets and, because they are available, I 'have' to have them connected: -
Logitech Touch,
Sky box (satellite TV facility),
Sony Blu-Ray player,
Vaio MM PC
So I have a 'cheapo' Tenda switch on the end of the cable incoming from the 834G and the 4 above items are coupled to that using short lengths of Cat 5e cable. In direct answer to your question the Touch is ethernet coupled to the Tenda switch which in turn is ethernet coupled to the 834G router.
Cheers,
Dave.

[garym]

Hi Gary,
ATM I have a Netgear 834G Modem Router as the first 'stop' on my incoming ADSL path. As you may know this has both wired and wireless capability. I have 3 x Cat 5e cable connections going to various rooms in the house and one Cat 5e cable going into the workstation immediately at the side of this 834G. One room cable is unused (currently no components in that room), one
goes into the room where the laptop is situated, into a 'plumbed-in' wall plate and I have the laptop permanently wire connected to this outlet. FWIW the laptop is wireless enabled and the signal in that room is reported a excellent so it is also connected wirelessly.
The last cable is routed into our lounge, which also serves as my main listening room and our main TV viewing room. In this room we have the following items all with RJ45 ethernet sockets and, because they are available, I 'have' to have them connected: -
Logitech Touch,
Sky box (satellite TV facility),
Sony Blu-Ray player,
Vaio MM PC
So I have a 'cheapo' Tenda switch on the end of the cable incoming from the 834G and the 4 above items are coupled to that using short lengths of Cat 5e cable. In direct answer to your question the Touch is ethernet coupled to the Tenda switch which in turn is ethernet coupled to the 834G router.
Cheers,
Dave.

OK. All good. I'm not at home, so just from memory, simply plugging the ethernet cable into your TOUCH is not enough to switch it over to ethernet. Try doing a factory reset on the TOUCH (a little button on the back just above where the powercord goes in). After the factory reset, plugin the eithernet cable to the TOUCH. Do NOT enter your wifi password on the TOUCH (we don't want it connecting to WIFI, only the ethernet). edit: after the factory reset of the touch, you'll have to enter your mysqueezebox.com credentials on the TOUCH again I believe.

before you do the factory reset, see if there is a menu item in TOUCH. SETTINGS > ADVANCED > NETWORKING (maybe here you can switch to ethernet)