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    sound quality connected to a stereo

    Hi!

    I have had as SB Classic, but it's no longer working. I was very happy with it, but not when I connected it to my stereo. The sound was quite dull and not very good at all.
    So I want to know what the sound of a Touch is like when connected to a stereo. Maybe I connected my classic wrongly or used the wrong cables. I connected it through phono, which was the only place where it was able to produce any sound.

    Hoping somebody will be able to shed light on this matter.

    Peter

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    hi peter,
    in my opinion the touch is a very good all round performer in terms of quality ouputs.you say you have connected to your stereo using phono leads.this means you are using the internal dac.the dac in the touch is better than that of the sb3.you dont say what your stereo system consists of.ie(pre amp/power amp or intergrated amp)speakers ect.alough your source component(sb3 or possible new touch) is a very important aspect of your overall sound the other components will make a massive difference to your overall music presentation.you could bypass whatever stereo system you use and try a pair of active speakers.theese type of speaker have built in power amps therefore you would connect touch to active speakers and you have music.this will still use touch internal dac.regards scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by nille12345 View Post
    Hi!

    I have had as SB Classic, but it's no longer working. I was very happy with it, but not when I connected it to my stereo. The sound was quite dull and not very good at all.
    So I want to know what the sound of a Touch is like when connected to a stereo. Maybe I connected my classic wrongly or used the wrong cables. I connected it through phono, which was the only place where it was able to produce any sound.

    Hoping somebody will be able to shed light on this matter.

    Peter
    Ummm...if you had the Classic connected into the "phono" input jacks of your amplifier, that would very likely be a significant problem. Much, much less of a problem if you just had the Classic connected to the correct amp inputs and were just using RCA phono-type RCA cords.

    If you don't have enough non-phono input connections on your amp to accommodate the Classic or possibly the Touch (highly recommended!) and don't want to buy a new amp, you might consider purchasing a small switcher box where you could connect at least two devices in to it with the switcher just one "out" to your amp. You'd have to switch inputs each time you wanted to use a different device, but it'll be cheaper than buying a new amp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rgro View Post
    Ummm...if you had the Classic connected into the "phono" input jacks of your amplifier, that would very likely be a problem. Much less of a problem if you had the Classic connected to the correct amp inputs and were just using RCA phono-type RCA cords.

    If you don't have enough non-phono input connections on your amp to accommodate the Classic or possibly the Touch (highly recommended!) and don't want to buy a new amp, you might consider purchasing a small switcher box where you could connect at least two devices in to it with the switcher just one "out" to your amp. You'd have to switch inputs each time you wanted to use a different device, but it'll be cheaper than buying a new amp.
    +1, connecting anything other than a turntable to "phono" inputs will be very bad. Yes you can hear something, but it doesn't work even close to correctly. You'll need a new receiver/preamp/amp or something. Phono won't work correctly with ANY SB player (or CD player, etc. etc.).

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    Agreed that the phono input is the worst one to use. The phono input is designed to accommodate the much lower output level produced by turntables, as well as applying an RIAA equalization. Plugging anything other than a turntable into the phono input is bound to sound terrible.

    But you say you didn't get any sound when you connected it to other inputs on the amp. Did you check to see the volume on the SB was high enough? Did you try different cables?

    I'm curious. You say you were very happy with your SB3, but not when it was connected to your stereo. Were you using headphone before?

    Finally, to answer your question: the SB3 sounds excellent when connected correctly to a stereo. The Touch sounds a little better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nille12345 View Post
    Hi!

    I have had as SB Classic, but it's no longer working. I was very happy with it, but not when I connected it to my stereo. The sound was quite dull and not very good at all.
    So I want to know what the sound of a Touch is like when connected to a stereo. Maybe I connected my classic wrongly or used the wrong cables. I connected it through phono, which was the only place where it was able to produce any sound.

    Hoping somebody will be able to shed light on this matter.

    Peter
    The SB puts out "line level" which would blow away ANY phono input since it's voltages are huge compared to a turntable. As everyone has said, when you plug into a receiver, you will (mostly) have two volume controls: the volume of the SB and the volume on the receiver.

    It would be best to try a CD/AUX input. Set the volume of the receiver to zero and use the webUI to set the output of the SB to maximum. (Settings/player/<pick player>/audio.) Of course, you need to set the receiver to that input. If you only have "tape" settings on the receiver, plug the wires from the SB to the TAPE IN and select TAPE MONITOR for that input. Start something playing on the webUI and then run up the receiver volume.

    Type back. The thing should work very well.

    P
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    Can you share an input on your amp? Ex: If your CD player is in the CD input on your amp via L/R analog, does that CD input also have digital inputs (coax and/or optical)?

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    Thanks for all your answers.

    I've got other available inputs, but there was just no sound in them.
    But I've understood now that phono isn't a good option.

    Nille

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    You will need to select which specific input is to be used. How you do so depends on the receiver being used.
    First select device (ex: CD) then select input (if not the default input).

    There must be some way to select the input type (coax, optical, L/R analog) for each device.

    On an AVR it will usually offer an additional feature of Auto or Last.
    Auto = when you select the device the AVR looks at all input types for a signal
    Last = when you select the device it will only use the "last" input type used when that device was last selected

    Both Auto and Last can be (should be, anyway) overridden by a manual way of selecting the input type.

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