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    Interesting post.

    About cables and stuff. http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2010/08...ublicity-file/
    He also does the How to spot a psycopath site which is very interesting. This is about logic and stuff that really doesn't go with audiophile 100% but oh well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nonreality View Post
    about cables and stuff. http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2010/08...ublicity-file/
    he also does the how to spot a psycopath site which is very interesting. This is about logic and stuff that really doesn't go with audiophile 100% but oh well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Leigh View Post
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    I'm so glad you liked it Phil. haha Like I've said before, I do owe you a lot for your help here with tags a couple of years ago.
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    I specially liked this link to

    CARGO CULT SCIENCE by Richard Feynman


    http://www.lhup.edu/~DSIMANEK/cargocul.htm

    I'm convinced that modern audiophilia fits wery well in that category.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnyb View Post
    I specially liked this link to

    CARGO CULT SCIENCE by Richard Feynman


    http://www.lhup.edu/~DSIMANEK/cargocul.htm

    I'm convinced that modern audiophilia fits wery well in that category.
    Dan is a very fine skeptic and his site that I stumbled upon years ago has always delighted me. He runs 2 sites, dans data and how to spot a psycopath and they are both fun and informative. Way too smart for me btw. but you know those aussies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnyb View Post
    I specially liked this link to

    CARGO CULT SCIENCE by Richard Feynman


    http://www.lhup.edu/~DSIMANEK/cargocul.htm

    I'm convinced that modern audiophilia fits wery well in that category.
    But if you rub it a pre defined way under water it should work they way you think, shouldn't it? The sound would be the same I would think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonreality View Post
    Dan is a very fine skeptic and his site that I stumbled upon years ago has always delighted me. He runs 2 sites, dans data and how to spot a psycopath and they are both fun and informative. Way too smart for me btw. but you know those aussies.
    I'm not sure it is a question of being "smart" vs. being perceptive.

    "Audiophiles" are, in general, a rebellious and "unstable" lot. Not always "smart" in the ways of the world. "Unstable" - in the sense that they are not consistent in the accepted ways of the world. "Unstable" in the productive nature of society. The status quo has never been expressed through music. Music is about the fringe of thought. The edges of "reality". It's about what can be, and what should be. It's not about what is "there". "There" does not need to be put to music. It's just "there". The status quo, in need of change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonreality View Post
    About cables and stuff. http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2010/08...ublicity-file/
    He also does the How to spot a psycopath site which is very interesting. This is about logic and stuff that really doesn't go with audiophile 100% but oh well.
    You will be surprised, but I measured system response of my system with different cables and saw some variation in midrange (couple dB). Measurements were consistent, I repeated few times.. in one case there was correlation with our listening experience

    Also, Transparent and MIT are not really just wires.. FYI

    Is there something you DO think makes a difference in sound?
    [ because some people here think DAC sound same.. for example ]

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    Quote Originally Posted by michael123 View Post
    You will be surprised, but I measured system response of my system with different cables and saw some variation in midrange (couple dB). Measurements were consistent, I repeated few times.. in one case there was correlation with our listening experience

    Also, Transparent and MIT are not really just wires.. FYI

    Is there something you DO think makes a difference in sound?
    [ because some people here think DAC sound same.. for example ]
    Oh yeah those strange network at the cable ends , that would make them different actually a wire should be just a wire ?

    Speaker wire can have an measurable impact if the speakers have very low impedance or are very reactive, bot not a couple of dB ? that suggest that almost half of the voltage is dropped over the cable in certain frequencies ? that must be something wrong with that design of one of the tested wires, a short thick cable with low inductance that's a good speaker cable.

    Do you have old infinity speakers or appogee scintilla's .

    You can also have problems with amp's with high output impedance (tube amp's with output transformer's ) they change frequency response depending on the load impedance

    Long runs of very thin speaker wire can be measured for shure in some cases.
    with some speaker, but thats speaker wires and the remedy still cost only a couple of dollars.

    Signal cables not so and I think most of the discussion in that link was about signal cables .

    But maybe in "audiophile engineering" you can find design that reacts in strange ways to signal cables :-/ The danish brand Holfi actually had a CD player that outputted much more distorsion in to a normal 10kOhm preamp input than to thier own preamps with 800 Ohm input's ?
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    Quite enjoyed skimming that blog. And it's been added to reader for future reference.
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