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  • More images of your music collection

    7 5.47%
  • Playlist management

    32 25.00%
  • Syncing Players Variation A

    2 1.56%
  • Syncing Players Variation B

    8 6.25%
  • MySqueezebox.com Integration

    13 10.16%
  • TrackStat Ratings

    11 8.59%
  • Caching of Album + Artist Lists

    28 21.88%
  • Album Art Only Screen

    10 7.81%
  • Better Search

    7 5.47%
  • Something else - Please do the poll with different options !

    10 7.81%
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    What should be in the next version of SqueezePad ?

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    This poll is deprecated and replaced by this one: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83106
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    Now as SqueezePad has been officially released there are sooo many directions on could go for improving the user experience.
    Of course not everything can be done at the same time in an one-developer-shop, so things must be prioritized.
    As I'm already very happy with the current set of features, I decided to start a poll to find out what feature would make most of the user-base happy.

    So take your time and vote for the thing you want me to start at next.

    More images of your music collection
    Right now there a different ways to find more images matching your music collection/the current playing song.
    But we don't have a place yet to show all those nice pictures from the Flickr-App, the Queen App, erlands Song-Info plugin (I always enjoy watching the Last.FM artist images them on the Radio, but the display there unfortunately is sooooooooooo small).

    Now with the iPad why not browse all these images like in the 'Photos' App ? Fullscreen, with scaling, as a slideshow ...
    So lets just tap the image of the current song and start such an image viewer !

    Better playlist management
    While the current version of SqueezePad has some basic playlist features via the context-menus (all those that logitech provides on their SqueezePlay devices) I guess people heavily using playlist might find the possibilities a bit limited.
    The lets have a custom playlist editor which optionally appears on the right side (overlaying the 'Now Playing' part of the app until dismissed) where you can reorder tracks with drag and drop or delete single items.
    If you are in the albums/titles/artists menu on the left one could even think of drag'n'dropping them from left to right (I'm not sure yet how complicated this could get for me).
    Remember: touching a song already changes the menu or presents the context-menu so I still have to think how to best avoid confusions.

    Syncing players (variation A)
    Syncing players is available in the current version of SqueezePad via the default logitech menu. But again: if you do it often, the Logitech way ("select a player, sync it to another player, switch to the next player ...") might not be the most comfortable one.
    So lets improve the popup for choosing players with options to group players with drag'n'drop as you might already know it from another iPhone App for Squeezeboxen.

    Syncing players (variation B)
    But is this the right way to do syncing ? Some time ago someone posted the following idea:
    Why not define named Sync-Groups like 'Party Backyard', 'Party Frontyard' where players are assigned (again with drag and drop).
    You then can easily activate certain preconfigured Sync-Groups which might be very handy if you often need different Sync-Groups.

    Players would be allowed to be assigned to multiple Sync-Groups in the configuration by the way.

    (I'll add the votes of 'Variation A+B' together, to get an overall count for a syncing feature)

    Mysqueezebox.com - Integration
    Currently you need a local server for running SqueezePad.
    Do you want me to add mysqueezebox.com support so that it works also without a local server ?

    TrackStat Ratings
    Never used this feature myself - other Apps have this feature so it might be important. Tell me with your votes !

    Caching of Album + Artist Lists
    Like on your real Logitech Devices Album and Artist lists are fetched from the server each time you enter the menu.
    This might be annoying for large libraries - so why not cache the list (until the server does the next rescan possibly finding new albums/artist).
    The list could be presented much faster then !

    Album Art Only Screen
    A screen filled with the cover art of your library. Sorta like the example posted here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpo...&postcount=202

    Better Search
    Enter a search term and get a combined search for artists/albums/titles.

    Something else
    If you think your most important feature is not in the list, vote here and comment in this thread.
    If this point gets enough votes I'll start the poll again with different options
    Last edited by bluegaspode; 2010-11-06 at 07:09.
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    something else

    Feel a bit stupid suggesting this but it is to be able to direct music to play on the ipad itself. I dont want to load the music up on ipad (only 16 gb), and want to be able to use familiarity with squeezbox menu system to play my music content on ipad and listen with headphones.

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    might be possible - but doesn't seem to be very easy to implement.
    Anyway - if others want that too, vote for 'Something else' for now.
    Did you know: SqueezePlayer will stream all your music to your Android device. Take your music everywhere!
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    Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? => why not try my Headphone Switcher Applet

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    Even though I posted all those ablum art screen shots, I didn't vote for that in the pole. Rather, I think you're handling of album art is fine. Sure, a pure browse through album art feature would be cool. But for me more searching options are what I miss.

    So I voted for more search power.

    In fact, the "killer app" would be to use metadata NOT in the squeeze server, to assist with searching. I don't know the rules about making use of a source like all music or something, so that I could search for all R&B from the 1960s and then get a list of the albums I have that fit that criteria according to AllMusic or something like that. Maybe freedb has that info, and could be the source. Dunno.

    I admit that's a huge bit of integration since it's not part of the squeeze world already to draw on.... but one can dream!

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    Caching for me, the other options voted on all seem relevant, but caching would make it better IMO.

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    After living with the app some more i am finding the menu structure to be a little strange. I also find the logitech menuing to be odd. And maybe the menu here mimics what i have set up for each device in the web interface set up options?

    Setting -> advanced -> information has stuff like Folders and Logs but neither does anything for me. Love to hide it.

    Doesnt really make sense to me to have the App Gallery on the top level player menu. Mayne buried deeper or even better on a separate server settings section if there was one. Maybe that is something i can adjust in the logitech web interface?

    I have a menu item called Extras and it is empty. Is that setup error on my part?

    The My Apps option is cool but doesnt actually show all my apps. Album review for example is not there, but is instead under Search. Maybe thats how it is supposed to work. But it feels weird. Love to see album review as an option at the top when i am listening to an album.

    Anyway i think there are other similar thinga but this is a selection of examples. As i say this stuff may be mostly user setup errors on the server and not the Squeezepad app's doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathan_h View Post
    After living with the app some more i am finding the menu structure to be a little strange.
    Actually it should be exactly the menu structure you would see on the logitech device. So if you use a Radio, Controller or Touch they'd present the menus in the exact same (dis-?)order.

    The Extras menu is special I think. Its disabled per default on the devices - but its where most of the third party stuff puts its sub-menu under. I'll keep a note to hide it if it has no items.

    Also if you search for the 'Apps' thingies you will find a lot of threads here on the forum. Apps is what is provided by Logitech - so Album-Review cannot appear there (but somewhere else - whatever the author chose).

    Using the original menus has a lots of advantages and disadvantages:
    (-) if users don't like the logitech way, they won't like the SqueezPad way
    (+) users don't get confused by the menus when switching between SqueezePad/Controller/Touch/Radio/Boom/Classic
    (+) I automatically have all features available on all devices. If I started something on my own a lot of stuff would be missing (like Spotify, Pandora, Napster, Rhapsody, Third Party plugins) - as I even don't know all this stuff users are using.

    For the 7.6. beta version logitech decided to make it possible to reorder menus. I'll probably need to implement this feature as well.

    iPeng choose a different route - pippin made his own top-level menu for albums + artist - and somewhere else you can find the squeezeplay menus as well. Personally I find that more confusing - but probably all this is just a matter of taste.
    Last edited by bluegaspode; 2010-08-03 at 23:59.
    Did you know: SqueezePlayer will stream all your music to your Android device. Take your music everywhere!
    Remote Control + Streaming to your iPad? Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad
    Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? => why not try my Weather Forecast Applet
    Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? => why not try my Headphone Switcher Applet

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    Yes after a little more exploring i guess Squeezepad is using the same menus as my other devices --- which i think it the right thing to do. I just need to fix my menu settings better, get rid of some stuff i dont use etc.

    The Extras menu should actually have some items for me because it does on the web interface but doesnt in Squeezepad.

    Although i like ipeng i am glad you chose the other route (sticking with the logitech way) because it will scale better with new apps and plugins i think. Right now Im still gettin used to how it handles plugins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegaspode View Post
    iPeng choose a different route - pippin made his own top-level menu for albums + artist - and somewhere else you can find the squeezeplay menus as well.
    iPeng uses the Squeezeplay menu as well but adds additional items on the top level because you can only put top-level items onto the Tab Bar.
    Apart from that I pretty much leave the SP menu structure as it is with the notable exception of trying to group player settings menu under "player settings" to be able to create a player settings context menu instead of having them distributed across the whole menu structure as SqueezePlay does.

    I believe the SP philosophy is that the whole SP menu structure is player specific so a player settings menu doesn't make sense which is a philosophy I don't agree to.

    How about agreeing on a way to customize the home menu structure through the server and have a plugin for that? The motivation for me would be to have then same menu structure for all players and all client devices which I think is otherwise a pain in the ass to design. We would need somebody to write the plugin, though, I'm not gonna touch Perl....
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    As Ben is currently writing something on the SqueezePlay Client Side in the end I will need a solution too. Be it clientside or serverside.

    Most important: easy to configure but still versatile enough to make 80% of users satisfied - lets wait what a bit how the discussion from erland goes on.
    Did you know: SqueezePlayer will stream all your music to your Android device. Take your music everywhere!
    Remote Control + Streaming to your iPad? Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad
    Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? => why not try my Weather Forecast Applet
    Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? => why not try my Headphone Switcher Applet

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