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    Help me get 500 ft away from router

    Can I use ethernet cat6 to span 600 ft right out of my existing router directly into squeeze box? I am told 300 ft is maximum wired range. Can I double this range to 600 ft. by using two 300 ft cat6 lines joined in the middle with a $20 ethernet switch? Does switch require electricity? If so, is there one that runs on battery? I won't be able to easily extend an extension cord to switch.

    Alternatively can someone advice on a router/antenna solution for around 400 ft? I tried using a dir655 router but even though squeezebox in shack could see network the wifi signal wasn't strong enough.

    As a last resort can I buy two ActionTec MI424-WR routers around $40 each and set them up as a bridge as seen below in my second post

    and have one sitting beside my uverse router/modem and have the other MI424-WR in my shack 600 ft away where my squeezebox is? And use 600 ft of coax to connect the two MI424-WR's?

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    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1145636

    this shows how to bridge the ActionTec MI424-WR routers.

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    You can have a cable longer than 300 feet. There is no guarantee that you'll achieve maximum data transfer speeds though. I assume the only thing connected to the cable will be the SB. If that is the case, you shouldn't have any problems. Especially if you keep the cable away from power lines and other stuff that might interfere with the signal. You could also make two 300 foot cables and use a repeater/switch to connect them. You'll need some sort of electrical power though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leif View Post
    Can I double this range to 600 ft. by using two 300 ft cat6 lines joined in the middle with a $20 ethernet switch?
    Yes.

    Does switch require electricity?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leif View Post
    Can I use ethernet cat6 to span 600 ft right out of my existing router directly into squeeze box? I am told 300 ft is maximum wired range. Can I double this range to 600 ft. by using two 300 ft cat6 lines joined in the middle with a $20 ethernet switch? Does switch require electricity? If so, is there one that runs on battery? I won't be able to easily extend an extension cord to switch.

    Alternatively can someone advice on a router/antenna solution for around 400 ft? I tried using a dir655 router but even though squeezebox in shack could see network the wifi signal wasn't strong enough.

    As a last resort can I buy two ActionTec MI424-WR routers around $40 each and set them up as a bridge as seen below in my second post and have one sitting beside my uverse router/modem and have the other MI424-WR in my shack 600 ft away where my squeezebox is? And use 600 ft of coax to connect the two MI424-WR's?
    Hello and welcome to the Forum.

    I am assuming since you have a Squeezebox at the 600 feet away location that you have AC power there? If you are in the States, why not use Powerline Networking? Also on the 600 ft CAT 6 cable, I would guess that it wouldn't meet the standard anymore for all features to work as spec'd but should still work fine for having only a Squeezebox connected.

    As for antenna solutions, if the mounting is available for true fixed hardpoint, 600 feet is nothing. Solution A would be a hog fence antenna or maybe a MFJ 1800 yagi to see if a single high gain antenna can put enough signal in the location and have enough RX gain to hear the SB talk back (the hardest part). Solution B would be a yagi (attached to router with low loss coax pigtail) pointed just at the edge of the nearest outside location with a yagi to receive this signal. The second yagi (on outside location) would have low loss cable attached to a quarter wave antenna. This second part (yagi attached to quarter wave) becomes a bi-directional antenna circuit. The reason not to point the yagi directly at the location but at the outside edge is to isolate the SB from receiving directly from the house side yagi forcing it to use the quarter wave to yagi setup. We used these setups to find people trapped in buildings that still had a working cell phone or text pager but couldn't log into the tower due to lack of signal strength. If power is available at the outside location, smaller antennas can be used by installing a BDA (bi-directional RF amp).

    In the end it might just be easier to buy a Touch and take it and a USB drive to the other location when needed.
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    I don't really understand the wireless solutions as explained above here. The MFJ-1800 recommended above I don't see how it's compatible with SB? My current uverse modem/router- I don't think it nor are most routers compatible with such wifi antennas so I would need to buy a wireless router with external antenna support right? Can someone recomend one? Then can somoone recomend an antenna? Will an antenna boost wifi 100 ft? I already tried borrowing a dir655 router and attached it to my uverse modem/router with a 25 ft ethernet cable which allowed me to place the dir655 in my attic against the wall of my house that faces my shack but the SB in shack could see the network but was too weak to get on. My shack does have electricity but I don't want powerline internet.

    Although if you guys think a 600 ft straight cat6 run without a switch in the middle will work I'd like to try that first.
    Last edited by leif; 2010-05-25 at 20:51.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leif View Post
    My shack does have electricity but I don't want powerline internet.
    Why not, it works very well (though that said I've never tried using it over 600ft).
    Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ?
    I SAID ALL OF THEM !

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    my shack has it's own power meter and is wired up to the road not my house so I don't think it would work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leif View Post
    I don't really understand the wireless solutions as explained above here. The MFJ-1800 recommended above I don't see how it's compatible with SB? ........

    Although if you guys think a 600 ft straight cat6 run without a switch in the middle will work I'd like to try that first.
    It's just a bigger Wifi antenna to boost the signal and will work with any B/G device.
    I use a similar antenna on my car trunk for Wifi (different style, 1 foot rod on a magnet mount).

    I'd definitely go with a single run 600' foot first before introducing more connections and switches unnecessarily on such a long run.
    If for any reason you later need to add in a split or switch you can always bribe your Radio Shack employee to cut & add RJ45 connectors.

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