Radio Station not available?

[Texas97]

I bought my SBR a couple of weeks ago, got it this week and have been playing around with it. I am very happy with it. It is pretty cool. I was amazed how well it synced to my iTunes on my laptop.

Ok so here is my question. Before I bought it, I really wanted to listen to some of the local stations (I live in Austin). My favorite radio station in town is KVET 98.1. Before buying this product, I looked on the squeezebox website and checked to see if 98.1 was available. It was according to the website search page (gave me the green check mark). I got it and it worked great. Even got my radio station.

Last night, however I could not pick it up via internet radio. It isn't showing on the list of locals when I go to "internet radio". I went to the squeezebox website and now it is saying that station is not available? I know for a fact it was available before I bought it via their website. Could it have dropped off in 2 weeks? That seems strange. Plus it worked 2 days ago.

Here is where it gets even more strange. I noticed that when I had my laptop on and I was connected to it, if I went to "internet radio" it is showing up on my local list. But if I turn off my laptop and hop back on mysb.com it drops off.

Any thoughts?

[toby10]

KVET is likely an AAC stream. SBS on your computer can play AAC, MySB.com cannot.

[Texas97]

You are 100% correct. I did some digging and found out that is why.

Will my SBradio only be able to play AAC streaming stations via SBserver or is this a fix that can be made to the software?

[toby10]

You are 100% correct. I did some digging and found out that is why.

Will my SBradio only be able to play AAC streaming stations via SBserver or is this a fix that can be made to the software?

Dunno, but I'd guess not very likely to be fixed.
MySB (and all prior versions of MySB) has never supported AAC streaming.
But it sure seems like more and more stations are going the AAC route so maybe this should be addressed by Logitech, assuming they can do anything about it.

Until last fall no SB player supported AAC natively so it was kinda pointless to offer AAC streams via MySB.
But now the new players do support AAC and more stations are going AAC.

[Texas97]

But now the new players do support AAC and more stations are going AAC.

Do you mean that new Logitech Squeezebox players are supporting AAC natively? Just not the SBRadio and older ones? I didn't think the SB Radio was that old. According to their website, Grace Digital offers the station I referred to...

[bpa]

MySB (and all prior versions of MySB) has never supported AAC streaming

This is not quite correct.

Fir player that support AAC natively (i.e. Radio and Touch) MySB supports AAC streaming if the URL is provided as a Favorite or other means such as SomaFM App (last entry in menu enables users to pick the AAC version of SomaFM streams) or iPlayer App plays BBC AAC streams.

At present the MySB does not support AAC using RadioTime.

[toby10]

This is not quite correct.

Fir player that support AAC natively (i.e. Radio and Touch) MySB supports AAC streaming if the URL is provided as a Favorite or other means such as SomaFM App (last entry in menu enables users to pick the AAC version of SomaFM streams) or iPlayer App plays BBC AAC streams.

At present the MySB does not support AAC using RadioTime.

Yeah, true. That's why I wonder if this could not be made to support AAC from RadioTime feeds.

[toby10]

Do you mean that new Logitech Squeezebox players are supporting AAC natively? Just not the SBRadio and older ones? I didn't think the SB Radio was that old. According to their website, Grace Digital offers the station I referred to...

No, the Radio does support AAC natively.
But as bpa points out the station you are trying to play comes from RadioTime and MySB does not currently support AAC playback from RadioTime feeds.
How & why this is I don't know.
My guess is that the RadioTime AAC feeds are in a format that MySB cannot currently deal with (like the url form that bpa suggests).

So I guess to play AAC via MySB requires some sort of special formatting or handling that MySB can't deal with.

[bobisculous]

Yeah, Clear Channel it is. I am having the same problem with local stations here in Houston (The Buzz, The Arrow, AM stations, etc). Yours and mine are all owned by Clear Channel.

Started about two nights ago. Everything with them stopped working. They are probably the biggest station operator in Houston. The only stations I listened to were these stations...Awesome.

Come on Logitech/MySB...Big time stations are making a move and you need to keep up with them. Figure it out and fix it.

-Cameron

[bpa]

Come on Logitech/MySB...Big time stations are making a move and you need to keep up with them. Figure it out and fix it.

These stations have moved to a Flash/Audio stream which requires a Flash player to play them. If they are using the encrypted Flash/Audio protocol then there is nothing legal that Logitech (or any 3rd party plugin developer) can do. These stations do not want you to listen on any device except through their Flash based (usually PC) player - you should complain to the stations as loss of listeners is where it hurts them.

The possible solution is if the station can be played on iTunes/iPhone/iTouch. Since these devices do not support Flash there is a hidden URL used to play the station on the iPhone/iTouch - get iTunes to show that URL and then use it to get SB player to play the station.