Disable audio outputs when off?

[AnotherTribe]

OK, where is the setting to disable the digital outputs when the Touch is placed in "Off" mode? The SB3 had a setting (from the web interface) under Player>Audio>Turn Off Audio which enabled me to "Disable outputs when off", no such option for the Touch under this menu. This enabled my auto-sensing DAC to automatically select the active input.

Please, please don't tell me this option has been removed! I am getting a horrible Déjà Vu feeling as I remember going through this with the SB3 during earlier firmware builds.

[JJZolx]

More likely never implemented. I can't even find a bug requesting this ability for the Touch. You should file one. This is similar to the one requesting fixed volume level on the digital outs. I can only imagine that the new architecture presents special problems for the developers when it comes to controlling the digital vs. the analog sides of things.

Although the Touch is billed as an SB3 replacement, it was essentially built from scratch, so some SB3 functionality can almost be expected to be missing. Hopefully it can be implemented eventually.

[ajayrav]

This has never worked for me. I have Duets that I use with a Musical Fidelity X-DACv3 and the automatic input sensing has never worked. This bug was on Bugzilla for a while and kept getting postponed to the next build, till it was finally earmarked for some undetermined time in the future. Yes, it SUCKS!

[AnotherTribe]

Bug #16069 submitted. Hopefully a quick resolution is reached.

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16069

[sckramer]

Oh no! I use that also on the sb3

[peterw]

Although the Touch is billed as an SB3 replacement, it was essentially built from scratch, so some SB3 functionality can almost be expected to be missing..

Yeah, I cringed a bit when I read the language in the announcement that "The Squeezebox Touch has the same capabilities of a Squeezebox Classic" -- it certainly doesn't have all the capabilities, even though Touch does add several cool new features and improvements. For 80-90% of users, it offers everything that they've come to expect, and some new features that folks have wanted for years -- for instance, it's great that you can now have a local server+player that uses less power than a dumb old SB Classic.

But there are a few things like this digital output setting, IR blasting, support for JVC DVD remote codes, and wireless bridging that aren't part of Touch either because Logitech hasn't gotten around to implementing it yet, or because the new hardware lacks some of the capabilities of the old gear (e.g. the IR microcontroller and WiFi adapter apparently just aren't as flexible as what Sean & Slim Devices spec'ed for SB2/SB3/Classic).

If you're looking to replace an SB2/SB3/Classic with a Touch, you need to read Mickey's entire sentence -- "The Squeezebox Touch has the same capabilities of a Squeezebox Classic – a Wi-Fi music player capable of playing music from your iTunes or MP3 collection, Internet radio from services such as Pandora, Deezer, Rhapsody, Last.fm, or tuning into local AM/FM radio stations from around the world – but updated with a 4.3 inch (11 cm) color touch screen interface and the simple-to-use menus also used on the Squeezebox Radio." -- and if anything you care about isn't listed there, ask, as it might not be something Touch can do now, or ever. Oh, and when Mickey writes "tuning into local AM/FM radio stations from around the world", of course he means playing Internet streams from stations that also broadcast AM/FM. One could argue there should be asterisk by iTunes (AFAIK, DRM-encumbered tracks still won't play). I imagine Mickey's text was probably twisted a bit by Logitech marketing, so I can't fault *him* for the fact that it glosses over a few finer points, but I think that part of the announcement is, unfortunately, a bit misleading.

[Mnyb]

+1 voted

[AnotherTribe]

Yeah, I cringed a bit when I read the language in the announcement that "The Squeezebox Touch has the same capabilities of a Squeezebox Classic" -- it certainly doesn't have all the capabilities, even though Touch does add several cool new features and improvements.

I thought I had done my due diligence and researched the differences in depth enough. I was aware of the bridging functionality not begin available. I am surprised this issue was not identified (or perhaps it was) during beta testing as it was a bit of a hot topic with the SB3. Anyway, hopefully the bug gets enough votes for Logitech to seriously look at implementing this capability.

[JohnSwenson]

The hardware generation of the digital out on the Touch is completely different than on the SB3, thus any implementation will have to be written from scratch.

Any implementation depends on whether the S/PDIF device driver has been written to support turning the stream on and off. The hardware itself has the capability but I'm not sure if the device driver will do it.

IF the device driver can do it then adding the capability might not be too difficult and could probably be done with an applet or patch, but if the driver does not support that functionality its much more complicated and would have to be in a future firmware release.

John S.

[Mnyb]

The hardware generation of the digital out on the Touch is completely different than on the SB3, thus any implementation will have to be written from scratch.

Any implementation depends on whether the S/PDIF device driver has been written to support turning the stream on and off. The hardware itself has the capability but I'm not sure if the device driver will do it.

IF the device driver can do it then adding the capability might not be too difficult and could probably be done with an applet or patch, but if the driver does not support that functionality its much more complicated and would have to be in a future firmware release.

John S.

If one would want to nice to some folks with flawed dac's is it possible to power it off electrically and or kill the ligth on the coax.
Some dac designers have been lazy and haven't implemented the correct function to detect and actual stream they just detect any light or electricity as signal ? But on the other hand why should the Squeezebox compensate for errors made by others, turning it of electrically may cause pop's and clicks for all other users while cater for the few people with such a dac ? Or make a 3 way setting "off" "electrically off" "on all the time"