Disable WLAN on Squeezebox Touch

[MCG555]

So if I understood correctly:

- If I use ethernet to WLAN is still swiched on as well
- However,if I understood the info correct WLAN send/receives massively less radiation into the room. Is that correct??

I've just checked it on the Radio:

# ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:20:XX:XX:XX
inet addr:192.168.178.50 Bcast:192.168.178.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:3809 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:2764 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:412734 (403.0 KiB) TX bytes:393217 (384.0 KiB)
Base address:0x8000

eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:20:XX:XX:XX
UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:27 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:10 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:12832 (12.5 KiB) TX bytes:93 (93.0 B)






Thanks for the clarification...

[JJZolx]

Therefore, not providing an obvious option to disable the WI-FI on a WI-FI product cannot be considered negligence or an accidental design oversight and should not be discussed in the same breath.

No, you can be sure that leaving it out was anything but accidental. Someone undoubtedly brought it up during the development of the product and the decision was made that it was too much work or too difficult.

[Mnyb]

Id love to to see a "Turn of evil death ray" option

Hopefully they name it "powersave bla bla" or something .

They probably deemed an off option a waste of time implementing, especially if the user suddenly want to use wifi ? then all things wifi must be turned on again via some clever mechanism.
Does the OS on board the Touch supports that without rebooting ?
Make it even more messy with unnecessary options cant be good.
If making both interfaces more or less active all the time makes it "just work" for most people it's probably the best thing to do.

But logically , what can logitech do now. If they implemented it now they would somehow justify the critics and deem the new age loonies "right".

We can't have that, the majority of humanity lives in superstition and medieval darkness anyway, it would be wrong to add to that.

It's obviously no point for logitech (or anyone else what I'm doing) to use some kind of rational argument, when people are irrational they better stay away from this tread.

There are 1000's of things 1000 times more "dangerous" than wifi in everyday life .

Wonder how the wifi rays interact with the chemicals in the diet coke I just drank...

[325xi]

You're missing the point. Radio energy diminished to 50% within inches from antenna. Being very close to transmitter is not the same as just being in the same room. Having extra wifi transmitter very close to other audio components and cables that can possibly be not well isolated from EMI/RF isn't necessarily a good idea

[Mnyb]

You're missing the point. Radio energy diminished to 50% within inches from antenna. Being very close to transmitter is not the same as just being in the same room. Having extra wifi transmitter very close to other audio components and cables that can possibly be not well isolated from EMI/RF isn't necessarily a good idea

The origin of this tread was the FUD about wifi being dangerous to children..

Not the audiophile concern about disturbing the other Equipment in the rack.
How valid that is I have no idea at all, I have not heard any obvious. difference since disabling it on my Touch , but I use shielded cables and my equipment is grounded.

But I suspect if wifi where a problem for an audio circuit the Touch itself would be the first victim as it's circuits is closest to the source and no shielding . But then again I use the spdif output.

This would be possible to test with audio diff maker I suppose ?


More jokes:

From the front-line of FUD statistics:
"A fall from a tall building is 100% deadly to a pregnant woman"

[MCG555]

I gladly ask my question again because I am not sure if I understood correctly:



- If I use ethernet the WLAN is still swiched on as well - this seams clear so far.
- However,if I understood the info correct, WLAN sends/receives massively less radiation into the room (see attached info below). Is that correct??


(info from 1. page of that thread)
# ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:20:XX:XX:XX
inet addr:192.168.178.50 Bcast:192.168.178.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:3809 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:2764 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:412734 (403.0 KiB) TX bytes:393217 (384.0 KiB)
Base address:0x8000

eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:20:XX:XX:XX
UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:27 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:10 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:12832 (12.5 KiB) TX bytes:93 (93.0 B)



Thanks for the clarification...

[rblnr]

I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. The radio may still be on (I have no way to tell), but it's certainly not connected to the network. If you were to set up a Touch from scratch with a wired connection then it wouldn't even have credentials to connect wirelessly. Plus, the wireless and wired interfacs use the same MAC address, so I don't know how it would work in any case.

I just ran a little test, changing from a wireless to a wired connection (so the wireless credentials may still be stored somewhere). As soon as the Touch connected to the wired network it was immediately dropped from the list of connected clients shown on my wireless access point.

So then wifi control of a wired Touch is not possible? No iPeng or Controller? Or is there a way to get both? Would like the reliability of wired but want control.

[toby10]

So then wifi control of a wired Touch is not possible? No iPeng or Controller? Or is there a way to get both? Would like the reliability of wired but want control.

iPeng & Controller connect through your WiFi router, not directly to the Touch.
So yes, both is the answer.
Wired Touch controlled by iPeng/Controller via WiFi.

[rblnr]

iPeng & Controller connect through your WiFi router, not directly to the Touch.
So yes, both is the answer.
Wired Touch controlled by iPeng/Controller via WiFi.

So to belabor, wifi does not switch off when the Touch is connected via wire to the network?

Makes no sense that you couldn't get both, but some posts seem to indicate you have to choose.


Light Bulb!: got it, nevermind

[NewBuyer]

...death ray... waste of time... messy... unnecessary options... "just work" probably best... illogical... new age loonies... superstition and medieval darkness... irrational... 1000's of things 1000 times more "dangerous"...

Mynb, you are hilarious!

I first thought you accidentally left out "old fashioned" in your rant, but then I saw the "medieval" part. I suppose the people wanting to disable the Touch wifi, must thus be both medieval and new-age?

I certainly hope Logitech doesn't think about this like you do! Now just imagine, if only you could turn your ridicule powers toward the service of good...