Best tagging software

[David Shieff]

I'm sure this has been asked a lot in these forums, but I couldn't easily
find it:





What is the best tagging software out there? (For dealing with 100's of
music files)





What is the best format to encode to? (MP3, Ogg Vorbis.)







Thanks,

ds

[Neil Cameron]

BPM Analyzer sounded great - so I downloaded it. It displays the BPM in it's own Window, and it says it can export this data to an XLS file. How do you get it to update the MP3 tag?
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Neil
"Howard Darwen" <hdarwen (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote in message news:JNEEKJOPJGIAPJAMOIGPGEPACIAA.hdarwen (AT) btinternet (DOT) com...
for tagging MP3s i use ID3-TagIT, which is both good and free ...

http://www.id3-tagit.de/english/index.htm

personally i encode everything as MP3 using LAME "--alt-preset standard" settings (about 192K VBR).

another handy utility (if you are into dance music) is the following BPM analyser (also free), that will write the BPM of each song to the MP3 BMP tag. unfortunately slim does not do anything with the BPM tag yet.

http://www.mixmeister.com/download.htm
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Subject: [slim] Best tagging software


I'm sure this has been asked a lot in these forums, but I couldn't easily find it:





What is the best tagging software out there? (For dealing with 100's of music files)





What is the best format to encode to? (MP3, Ogg Vorbis.)







Thanks,

ds







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[James Craig]

It does it automatically.
If you're using iTunes you'll need to do a 'GetInfo' on the file for
iTunes to notice.
I don't know about other players.

This would be the greatest thing ever if it also supported AAC. But it
doesn't...

James

Neil Cameron wrote:

> BPM Analyzer sounded great - so I downloaded it. It displays the BPM
> in it's own Window, and it says it can export this data to an XLS
> file. How do you get it to update the MP3 tag?
> --
> Neil
>
> "Howard Darwen" <hdarwen-FhtRXb7CoQBt1OO0OYaSVA (AT) public (DOT) gmane.org
> <mailto:hdarwen (AT) btinternet (DOT) com>> wrote in message
> news:JNEEKJOPJGIAPJAMOIGPGEPACIAA.hdarwen (AT) btinternet (DOT) com...
> for tagging MP3s i use ID3-TagIT, which is both good and free ...
>
> http://www.id3-tagit.de/english/index.htm
>
> personally i encode everything as MP3 using LAME "--alt-preset
> standard" settings (about 192K VBR).
>
> another handy utility (if you are into dance music) is the
> following BPM analyser (also free), that will write the BPM of
> each song to the MP3 BMP tag. unfortunately slim does not do
> anything with the BPM tag yet.
>
> http://www.mixmeister.com/download.htm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com]*On Behalf Of
> *David Shieff
> *Sent:* 11 August 2004 10:23
> *To:* discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> *Subject:* [slim] Best tagging software
>
> I'm sure this has been asked a lot in these forums, but I
> couldn't easily find it:
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> What is the best tagging software out there? (For dealing with
> 100's of music files)
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> What is the best format to encode to? (MP3, Ogg Vorbis...)
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> Thanks,
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> ds
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[Mike Kozlowski]

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, David Shieff wrote:

> What is the best format to encode to? (MP3, Ogg Vorbis.)

That depends on what you want to do. If you:

1. Want broad compatibility with everything, and don't care about much
else -- MP3.
2. Want to create a permanent archive and use an iPod -- Apple Lossless.
3. Want to create a permanent archive and stay in the Microsoft ecosystem
(Media Center, Media Player, etc.) -- WMA Lossless.
4. Want to create a perment archive and stay as open as possible (or play
losslessly on a non-iPod portable device with the Rio Karma) -- FLAC.
5. Are fanatical about open source -- FLAC.
6. Are fanatical about open source and have very little disk space -- Ogg.


--
Mike Kozlowski
http://www.klio.org/mlk/

[jacobdp]

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:16:41 -0400 (EDT), Mike Kozlowski <mlk (AT) klio (DOT) org> wrote:
> 1. Want broad compatibility with everything, and don't care about much
> else -- MP3.
> 2. Want to create a permanent archive and use an iPod -- Apple Lossless.
> 3. Want to create a permanent archive and stay in the Microsoft ecosystem
> (Media Center, Media Player, etc.) -- WMA Lossless.
> 4. Want to create a perment archive and stay as open as possible (or play
> losslessly on a non-iPod portable device with the Rio Karma) -- FLAC.
> 5. Are fanatical about open source -- FLAC.
> 6. Are fanatical about open source and have very little disk space -- Ogg.

I would recommend a hybrid approach, especially for use with a
portable device: do a master rip with FLAC, for use on the computer
and Squeezebox, then transcode to 128kbps MP3 for use on the iPod or
whatever. That's what I'll be doing once I get my new hard drive.

This gives the best of both worlds: perfect quality for a permanant
archive and Squeezebox listening (and open source!), plus broad
compatibility, small size, and good battery life on the go. There's
really no need for a lossless codec on the subway...

Also keep in mind that battery life on portable players tends to be
roughly proportional to bitrate, since the majority of power is used
in spinning up the hard drive to fill the internal buffer.

- Jacob

[Larry Truesdale]

I use MP3Tag from http://www.mp3tag.de/. It supports Vorbis comments
(tags) too.

As has already been suggested, I encode to FLAC initially and then
create MP3s using LAME's "standard" setting. This works well for me.\

Larry

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:23:20 +0100, David Shieff
<david_shieff (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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> I'm sure this has been asked a lot in these forums, but I couldn't easily find it:
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> What is the best tagging software out there? (For dealing with 100's of music files)
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> What is the best format to encode to? (MP3, Ogg Vorbis…)
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> Thanks,
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> ds
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[Ted Cabeen]

"David Shieff" <david_shieff (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> writes:

> I'm sure this has been asked a lot in these forums, but I couldn't easily
> find it:
>
> What is the best tagging software out there? (For dealing with 100's of
> music files)
>
> What is the best format to encode to? (MP3, Ogg Vorbis.)

If you have a lot of song with bad or inconsistent tags, the
MusicBrainz tagging system is pretty cool. They have an audio
recognition and tagging system that identifies the music in question
by analyzing the audio data itself. They've got a reasonably complete
database right now, and the tagging program is prety good, although it
doesn't support enough fields right now. They're talking about a new
database format that supports an incredible amount of tags, but it may
never be released. For now it works pretty well.

It's very useful for files with bad tags.

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[Marty]

Using the SB, I like to stream my music to wherever I may be. But when I stream it constantly re-buffers every 10 seconds or so. I've changed the player settings to limit the bitrate from the server to player, and it doesn't seem to make a difference. Does the speed of my server have anything to do with how often it's re-buffered? It's only a 450mhz P3 w/512 mb of RAM. I'm pretty sure the connection is not the issue, when streaming I'm usually on a broad band, at least 1.5mbps, on both sending and receiving end whenever I try to do this. Any thoughts? Or are there any other settings that I may not know of to help with this issue. All of the files that I try to stream are mp3s 256kbps bitrate.

Marty

[Jack Coates]

> Using the SB, I like to stream my music to wherever I may be. But when I
> stream it constantly re-buffers every 10 seconds or so. I've changed the
> player settings to limit the bitrate from the server to player, and it
> doesn't seem to make a difference. Does the speed of my server have
> anything to do with how often it's re-buffered? It's only a 450mhz P3
> w/512 mb of RAM. I'm pretty sure the connection is not the issue, when
> streaming I'm usually on a broad band, at least 1.5mbps, on both sending
> and receiving end whenever I try to do this. Any thoughts? Or are there
> any other settings that I may not know of to help with this issue. All of
> the files that I try to stream are mp3s 256kbps bitrate.
>

cool, you have a T1 at home? That must be nice.

If you've actually got something else, your uplink from home is probably
256k or less, and you'll need to limit bitrate to 128k or lower. You
mentioned you've tried limiting bitrate, have you tried dialing it really
low (say 32k)?

Memory might be an issue, depending on how many songs you have. CPU is
probably fine.

--
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