MusicIP Integration--At A Loss

[Ultraviolet]

So I've been using MusicIP and SBS for years and years and, while it has been glitchy, I've made it work. That is, until my music outgrew it's 2TB volume. I know that other people here have a similar set up working, but I am clearly missing something. Here's my setup:

Music (FLAC & MP3) on two separate 2 TB partitions (E: and F. Music IP is pointed to these paths directly and all tracks are analyzed (and mixes can be made directly with MiP). A folder (C:\MusicLibrary) contains shortcuts to E: and F: and SBS is pointed here. All tracks are found in SBS, but none of them have the "M" for MiP mixes. My MiP setup is headless, the service is running and http://localhost:10002 works just fine. If I point SBS to directly to either E: or F: (meaning I get half of my music library) the "M" is in SBS and everything is good. The only time I can't get it working at all, is when I have to point SBS to a folder of shortcuts. I know other people have made this work. I have tried probably 30 complete scans trying various things over months and am about to give up completely. I have debug turned on for the MiP log and I can't find any problems with it (portion of log attached).

Does anyone have any ideas? For me MiP functionality is the sole reason for using SBS.

Thanks for the help.

[Phil Leigh]

So I've been using MusicIP and SBS for years and years and, while it has been glitchy, I've made it work. That is, until my music outgrew it's 2TB volume. I know that other people here have a similar set up working, but I am clearly missing something. Here's my setup:

Music (FLAC & MP3) on two separate 2 TB partitions (E: and F. Music IP is pointed to these paths directly and all tracks are analyzed (and mixes can be made directly with MiP). A folder (C:\MusicLibrary) contains shortcuts to E: and F: and SBS is pointed here. All tracks are found in SBS, but none of them have the "M" for MiP mixes. My MiP setup is headless, the service is running and http://localhost:10002 works just fine. If I point SBS to directly to either E: or F: (meaning I get half of my music library) the "M" is in SBS and everything is good. The only time I can't get it working at all, is when I have to point SBS to a folder of shortcuts. I know other people have made this work. I have tried probably 30 complete scans trying various things over months and am about to give up completely. I have debug turned on for the MiP log and I can't find any problems with it (portion of log attached).

Does anyone have any ideas? For me MiP functionality is the sole reason for using SBS.

Thanks for the help.

I'm a bit confused. MusicIP HEADLESS server doesn't point directly at your music drives - it reads the m3lib cache file which is pointed at by the mmm.ini file which SHOULD say:

cache=C:\Documents and Settings\{your user name here!}\Application Data\MusicIP\MusicIP Mixer\default.m3lib

[Phil Leigh]

AH - I think it is the way the shortcuts are used... the paths in the SBS database have to match EXACTLY the paths held within the default.m3lib file and I think you have to create the shortcuts in a specific way...
It's something like the difference between e:\path and \\server\drive\path...

[Ultraviolet]

You're right about the mmm.ini file Phil. It's been a while since I set that up and I forgot about that point.

I figured it was something to do with the shortcut paths, but I'm just not figuring it out. Are you saying I should use the UNC paths for the shortcuts in the folder that SBS points to? Do I have to recreate the default.m3lib file using UNC paths with MiP?

[Phil Leigh]

You're right about the mmm.ini file Phil. It's been a while since I set that up and I forgot about that point.

I figured it was something to do with the shortcut paths, but I'm just not figuring it out. Are you saying I should use the UNC paths for the shortcuts in the folder that SBS points to? Do I have to recreate the default.m3lib file using UNC paths with MiP?

I'm not sure - have you tried setting the shortcut paths as UNC's?
I'm sure this used to work for me fine when I had 3 drives and a shortcuts folder...

If the above doesn't work, I'd use the MIP GUI to refresh/rebuild the library so it definitely points to your new drives. If you've archived the analysis to the file tags it shoudln't need to reanalyse anyhting...?

[Dustysox]

Hi Chaps,

i am using a NAS which has my music stored on it running squeesebox server.

musicIP is something that I can't muster. What I need is an idiots guide to get it working.

In musicIP

1 scan music library

2 Under options/preferences/services/service port 10002.

3,Start services

4, Show services.

5, Enable MusicIP in squeezebox server.

6, This is where I get lost. Do I change in squeezebox server music folder location?

7, What's my next move?


Please please help??

[Phil Leigh]

Hi Chaps,

i am using a NAS which has my music stored on it running squeesebox server.

musicIP is something that I can't muster. What I need is an idiots guide to get it working.

In musicIP

1 scan music library

2 Under options/preferences/services/service port 10002.

This is the definitive site...

http://spicefly.com/index.php?option...d=16&Itemid=32

[Dustysox]

This is the definitive site...

http://spicefly.com/index.php?option...d=16&Itemid=32

Hi Phil,

Thank you for the link.

And there lies the problem...beyond my PC skills. Hence the need for someone "holding" my hand!!

Maybe one day, I'll get it.

Ho hum!

[Phil Leigh]

Hi Phil,

Thank you for the link.

And there lies the problem...beyond my PC skills. Hence the need for someone "holding" my hand!!

Maybe one day, I'll get it.

Ho hum!

I can't help with the nas side of things. I could totally take you through it on a PC.

In very brief summary this is what you do (there are some alternatives for step 1):
1) use the MusicIP windows GUI to analyse your music and store the results as additional tags within your music files. This also creates a MIP database called default.m3lib. After that you don't need the GUI until you add new music.
2)Install the headless server version of MIP on your NAS and point it at the default.m3lib from step 1
3) do a full rescan in SBS with the MusicIP plugin activated

[Dustysox]

I can't help with the nas side of things. I could totally take you through it on a PC.

In very brief summary this is what you do (there are some alternatives for step 1):
1) use the MusicIP windows GUI to analyse your music and store the results as additional tags within your music files. This also creates a MIP database called default.m3lib. After that you don't need the GUI until you add new music.
2)Install the headless server version of MIP on your NAS and point it at the default.m3lib from step 1
3) do a full rescan in SBS with the MusicIP plugin activated

Hi Phil,

Very kind of you.

The questions begin....

Understand about analyse music, but where are the results kept and how/what store additional tags? If so, do we then point squeezebox server to scan from that point?