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    Power supply requirement for Touch?

    The SB3 is packaged with a very wimpy and noisy switching power supply that inhibits its true potential.

    - I have an aftermarket PS for my SB3 - can I use it on Touch?
    - What is the DC requirement for the Touch?


    Baard

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    Quote Originally Posted by baardbaard View Post
    The SB3 is packaged with a very wimpy and noisy switching power supply that inhibits its true potential.

    - I have an aftermarket PS for my SB3 - can I use it on Touch?
    - What is the DC requirement for the Touch?
    The only difference is that the power supply that comes with the Touch is rated 3 Amp. It needs the extra to power the USB port. Same voltage and connector.

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    Nice, I can re-use this PS from:
    http://www.welbornelabs.com/squeeze.htm

    ratet 5V and 4A

    Baard

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    Quote Originally Posted by baardbaard View Post
    The SB3 is packaged with a very wimpy and noisy switching power supply that inhibits its true potential.

    - I have an aftermarket PS for my SB3 - can I use it on Touch?
    - What is the DC requirement for the Touch?


    Baard
    In your opinion. This is not backed up by fact.
    It is absolutely not "wimpy" - it delivers the current required. As for "noisy"... well, most of the "noise" comes from the internal DC switcher and the VFD.
    You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...
    Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables
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    Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything.

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    Wimpey, flimsy, under powered etc…..are you sure you want a debate on this topic meaning there is no point in upgrading the SB3 power supply from an audiophile point of view?

    Or was it just my way of describing the standard PS unit that was difficult for you to overcome?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baardbaard View Post
    Wimpey, flimsy, under powered etc…..are you sure you want a debate on this topic meaning there is no point in upgrading the SB3 power supply from an audiophile point of view?

    Or was it just my way of describing the standard PS unit that was difficult for you to overcome?
    It is not underpowered/wimpy as it delivers 5V @ 2.5 amps which is exactly what is required. Replacing with a "bigger" (higher current capability) power supply won't make any difference on its own. Also there are different versions of the stock PSU and later ones are far less noisy in terms of radiated RFI. Ultimately the performance is limited by the internal voltage switching of the SB itself and that VFD which is a noisy component.

    By the way, I'm happy to debate this point. I've measured the audio performance of the SB3 with different supplies. Have you?

    This discussion is best conducted in the Audiophile Forum, where you will find lots of discussion on the pros and cons of expensive power supplies and other mods.
    You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...
    Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables
    Stax4070+SRM7/II phones
    Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything.

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    For heavens sake – can’t you read between the lines? There is more to powers supply design then current capability. That’s why some off us have abandon el-cheapo SMPS

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Leigh View Post
    By the way, I'm happy to debate this point. I've measured the audio performance of the SB3 with different supplies. Have you?
    You really put a smile on my face with that on – I don’t have too. I have golden ears.

    I started this thread with a simple question – could you please stay on topic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baardbaard View Post
    I have golden ears.

    I started this thread with a simple question – could you please stay on topic?
    No you didn't, you started with a highly opinionated statement expressed as a fact, then you asked a question which has had an answer.

    Phil has at least shown his results of comparison.

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by baardbaard View Post
    For heavens sake – can’t you read between the lines? There is more to powers supply design then current capability. That’s why some off us have abandon el-cheapo SMPS



    You really put a smile on my face with that on – I don’t have too. I have golden ears.

    I started this thread with a simple question – could you please stay on topic?
    Golden something...
    You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...
    Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables
    Stax4070+SRM7/II phones
    Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything.

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    Oh boy - here we go again.

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