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    Ahah, that gets interesting. It looks like out of the box streaming flac would work at 192 but pcm will not. On the SP side its in a .c file so it has to get compiled into the firmware, but on the SBS side it can easily be modified.

    It looks like the modification is just to add 176 and 192 to the sample rate table, I didn't see anything that would preclude that from happening.

    So when agillis was running 192, he either modified the table or used a flac stream.

    For those interested in this its not the file itself but the stream type. As long as the file was transcoded into flac in the server it would run at 192.

    BTW what a weird ordering in the table!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSwenson View Post
    Ahah, that gets interesting. It looks like out of the box streaming flac would work at 192 but pcm will not. On the SP side its in a .c file so it has to get compiled into the firmware, but on the SBS side it can easily be modified.

    It looks like the modification is just to add 176 and 192 to the sample rate table, I didn't see anything that would preclude that from happening.

    So when agillis was running 192, he either modified the table or used a flac stream.

    For those interested in this its not the file itself but the stream type. As long as the file was transcoded into flac in the server it would run at 192.

    BTW what a weird ordering in the table!

    John S.
    I had to modify the table and use FLAC to get 192/24 to work with VortexBox Player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by agillis View Post
    I had to modify the table and use FLAC to get 192/24 to work with VortexBox Player.
    Thanks,
    that makes sense.

    John S.

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    It surprises me a bit that if it is (relatively) straightforward to make this work that Logitech don't just enable it out of the box? Irrespective of whether it is worthwhile or not, from a marketing point of view it would be better to be able to say 24/192.

    Bit of a bummer that my dac needs dual wire sp/dif for 192 anyway - I assume it is not an easy task to convert a touch to dual wire output?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robfitzp View Post
    It surprises me a bit that if it is (relatively) straightforward to make this work that Logitech don't just enable it out of the box? Irrespective of whether it is worthwhile or not, from a marketing point of view it would be better to be able to say 24/192.

    Bit of a bummer that my dac needs dual wire sp/dif for 192 anyway - I assume it is not an easy task to convert a touch to dual wire output?

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    Well there is the rest of the infrastructure sbs and tiny sbs the streaming capabilities etc.

    If by a fluke logitech does this, I bet there will be a post a week later by someone who cant stream his apple lossless 24/192 files with wifi in his mansion

    Their can be a considerable amount of work, it probably is at least relative to the benefits otherwise we would have it already (remember there IS almost no benefits ).

    It must work for everybody if it's ever going to be made by logitech. I don't think they like some partially supported solution that only works under some precise preconditions, like only wav from an usb drive or something like that if I dare to speculate ?

    This is a project that's clearly better done by third party enthusiast like mr Svensson and like minded that take it as hobby/educational project.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robfitzp View Post
    It surprises me a bit that if it is (relatively) straightforward to make this work that Logitech don't just enable it out of the box? Irrespective of whether it is worthwhile or not, from a marketing point of view it would be better to be able to say 24/192.

    Bit of a bummer that my dac needs dual wire sp/dif for 192 anyway - I assume it is not an easy task to convert a touch to dual wire output?

    Cheers
    Rob
    I seem to remember posts where it was claimed that the Transporter can't process files above 96/24 either through its DAC or digital outputs. Fixing the server software should at least allow for users to play these files at 96/24 and later hear them at full resoution through a 176/24 or 196/24 compatible streamer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DotSystem View Post
    I seem to remember posts where it was claimed that the Transporter can't process files above 96/24 either through its DAC or digital outputs. Fixing the server software should at least allow for users to play these files at 96/24 and later hear them at full resoution through a 176/24 or 196/24 compatible streamer.
    But you already can do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Leigh View Post
    But you already can do that.
    If memory serves, I was able to play 192/24 dumbed down to 96/24 using a 7.4 nightly but cannot presently under 7.3.3 release (unless I have misconfigured it).

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    7.4.0 and 7.4.1 and 7.4.2 and 7.5 does down-sampling via sox and flac.
    Works really well does load the server a bit though.

    Some 7.3.x version does this too but I think one 7.3.x version used mp3 urgh :-/ can not remember wich one 7.3.2 ?

    Miss-configured ? one should generally not touch the config file nowadays it works best right off the bat, unless you got special needs as a NAS or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnyb View Post
    7.4.0 and 7.4.1 and 7.4.2 and 7.5 does down-sampling via sox and flac.
    Works really well does load the server a bit though.

    Some 7.3.x version does this too but I think one 7.3.x version used mp3 urgh :-/ can not remember wich one 7.3.2 ?

    Miss-configured ? one should generally not touch the config file nowadays it works best right off the bat, unless you got special needs as a NAS or something.
    Thanks for the clarification. I had the file format settings in mind but it be the version issue. I am staying away from higher versions for the time being.

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