Think I've been ripped off - Squeezebox Classic Store Demo Unit.. Help!

[seanadams]

Obtain a working SB3. Disassemble, remove CPU module (using CA solvent if needed on mezzanine connector). Using SMD hot air rework station and nozzle suitable for TSOP 48 package, remove flash chip (marked AM29LV160xxx or compatible). Install in compatible programmer using appropriate adaptor and extract the flash image. Resolder flash chip and reassemble working SB3.

Disassemble demo SB3 and remove CF daughtercard. Repeat above procedure, except write the extracted image from step 1.

If you want wireless, obtain an Atheros mini-PCI module with AR2413 chipset and suitable antennas (eg 2.4GHz folded planar with mini I-PEX connector). Hire a lab to verify regulatory compliance. Reassemble.

[jtf]

Obtain a working SB3. Disassemble, remove CPU module (using CA solvent if needed on mezzanine connector). Using SMD hot air rework station and nozzle suitable for TSOP 48 package, remove flash chip (marked AM29LV160xxx or compatible). Install in compatible programmer using appropriate adaptor and extract the flash image. Resolder flash chip and reassemble working SB3.

Disassemble demo SB3 and remove CF daughtercard. Repeat above procedure, except write the extracted image from step 1.

If you want wireless, obtain an Atheros mini-PCI module with AR2413 chipset and suitable antennas. Hire a lab to verify regulatory compliance. Reassemble.

If I had a nickel for every time I've done this...

[Phil Leigh]

If I had a nickel for every time I've done this...

I'd have no nickels...

[iPhone]

Obtain a working SB3. Disassemble, remove CPU module (using CA solvent if needed on mezzanine connector). Using SMD hot air rework station and nozzle suitable for TSOP 48 package, remove flash chip (marked AM29LV160xxx or compatible). Install in compatible programmer using appropriate adaptor and extract the flash image. Resolder flash chip and reassemble working SB3.

Disassemble demo SB3 and remove CF daughtercard. Repeat above procedure, except write the extracted image from step 1.

If you want wireless, obtain an Atheros mini-PCI module with AR2413 chipset and suitable antennas (eg 2.4GHz folded planar with mini I-PEX connector). Hire a lab to verify regulatory compliance. Reassemble.

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Is time and material for the above procedure more or less then a used SB3 on EBAY? I am guessing more especially since one needs a working SB3 to extract the correct working flash image.

Best advice, make every attempt to get your money back (work with Credit Card company or PayPal), then buy a used SB3 on EBAY from a reputable seller.

Edit Addition: I do stand corrected in that it can be done but it is neither worth the time or the money in light of one needing a working SB3 just to get started (that one could end up disabling also if things go wrong).

[bobkoure]

I'd have to agree that the best solution is to get the seller to swallow it back. Might be hard to do if you bought it "as is", although if the seller knew it was unusable this isn't a lot different from shipping you a box of rocks.

If you end up stuck with it, before you start trying to convert it into a non-demo unit it seems to me there was at least one person posting here with a SB3 who'd had the display unit fail. Someone else mentioned that the display module is available for around $200.
So what you might have there is a donor display unit, ripe for desoldering...

[peterw]

Is time and material for the above procedure more or less then a used SB3 on EBAY?

Have you looked on eBay lately? There used to be a LOT of SB3 / SB Classic units for sale. Now there are 3 on the main eBay site -- two auctions that are days from closing, and one seller asking $349 USD for an SB3 with a homemade power supply. SB Receivers are similarly in short supply on eBay (three Buy It Now for about $200 each), though there are a few more Duet setups and Booms available. Things are certainly much different than a couple months ago when you could buy refurbished players from MySqueezebox.com for cheap. It looks like supply is drying up, so Logitech really needs to get the new gear out on the market.

Logitech hasn't announced anything, but I expect they'll release an updated Receiver (and Duet bundle) at the same time as Touch, based on the Touch/SqueezePlay/ARM platform, so I don't think it's a bad sign that Receivers seem hard to find right now. I don't at all think Logitech is wavering in its support of the Squeezebox product line, but merely that they underestimated demand for the old gear.

[iPhone]

Have you looked on eBay lately? There used to be a LOT of SB3 / SB Classic units for sale. Now there are 3 on the main eBay site -- two auctions that are days from closing, and one seller asking $349 USD for an SB3 with a homemade power supply. SB Receivers are similarly in short supply on eBay (three Buy It Now for about $200 each), though there are a few more Duet setups and Booms available. Things are certainly much different than a couple months ago when you could buy refurbished players from MySqueezebox.com for cheap. It looks like supply is drying up, so Logitech really needs to get the new gear out on the market.

Logitech hasn't announced anything, but I expect they'll release an updated Receiver (and Duet bundle) at the same time as Touch, based on the Touch/SqueezePlay/ARM platform, so I don't think it's a bad sign that Receivers seem hard to find right now. I don't at all think Logitech is wavering in its support of the Squeezebox product line, but merely that they underestimated demand for the old gear.

Actually Peter, I hadn't looked as usually EBAY is a less expensive place to get a nice used one. Guess I need to put the two NIB Duets and 3 NIB Classics I have up on EBAY. They were for a project at another house but I am going with the Touch when it comes out instead.

[mlsstl]

Might be hard to do <return to seller> if you bought it "as is"...

This depends a lot on the rest of the seller's description. If it was described as non-working or parts-only then you would have no expectation of getting your money back.

However, if the listing implied it was a working unit (by being silent on the demo issue or giving the impression by "demo" they meant a working floor model), then I think eBay (if this is where it was acquired) would side with the buyer and order a refund. With Paypal they have the ability to make that refund a reality whether the seller wants to cooperate or not.

If purchased directly from the seller you've probably been hosed by a slimebag.

[QBIT]

any one can solve this question

[snarlydwarf]

any one can solve this question

I thought http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpo...8&postcount=11 explained it just fine.