playlists created in winamp - not visible in SC?

[dsj]

Hi,

I previously created a bunch of m3u playlists in winamp.
I have copied shortcuts of these to a folder, and then pointed SC to look at that folder, however nothing shows up in SC, even after a full rescan.

Ive read that SC can use winamp playlists, so what is it Im probably missing here?

Many thanks.

[davep]

Hi,

I previously created a bunch of m3u playlists in winamp.
I have copied shortcuts of these to a folder, and then pointed SC to look at that folder, however nothing shows up in SC, even after a full rescan.

Ive read that SC can use winamp playlists, so what is it Im probably missing here?

Many thanks.

Not sure if shortcuts work where playlists are concerned. m3u is the right format for SC to work with so why not try pointing SC at the folder with the actual playlists in themselves rather than to shortcuts?

davep

[dsj]

Thanks for the response.

In my case, I keep a playlist in each genre of musics folder, so I dont have one folder in which they all reside, but I guess I might need to change that to play happily with SC.

Thanks again

[Siduhe]

Shortcuts should work to pick up playlist files - I have a couple that work like this.

Another likely reason is that the path in the winamp playlists is not the same path as the Squeezecenter library, so Squeezecenter can't read them.

A playlist is just a list of textual links to the music on your drives. In order to find the music, SC needs to "see" the path to the files in the same way that it sees the path to your music files. Open up one of the playlists in a decent text editor like Editpad and see what winamp is using.

So, for example, if you have given Squeezecenter the path "//NAS/Share" as your music library and your winamp playlists all use "F:/<MusicFolder>/", then you need to change the start of each path in the playlist from F:/<MusicFolder>/Song.mp3 to //NAS/Share/song.mp3 or whatever. Easy to do using find and replace.

The final thought I have is that if the path in the winamp playlist is "F:/..." then this may be a relative path, and may not work - Squeezecenter used to need absolute paths for playlists, although I think this may have changed now with the most recent versions of SC.

Finally, you will need to do a playlist rescan once you've got the paths to match, and the playlists then should work.

[dsj]

Thanks for the response.

Upon opening my playlists in the text editor I find this:

#EXTINF:252,Ian Brown - Corpses In Their Mouths
~ Ian Brown ~\Ian Brown - 2005 - The Greatest 2005 (flac)\The Greatest\02 - Corpses In Their Mouths.flac
#EXTINF:193,Inspiral Carpets - This Is How It Feels
~ Inspiral Carpets ~\Inspiral Carpets - 2003 - Cool As (flac)\Cool As, Disc 1\06. Inspiral Carpets - This Is How It Feels.flac
#EXTINF:237,James - Come Home
~ James ~\James - 1998 - Best Of (flac)\01 - Come Home.flac

So I opened the same platlist in winamp, and instead saved it as a PLS Playlist, which replaces the #EXTINF with a proper path. The PLS veriants work fine in SC.

[Siduhe]

Ok, so the problem is that your playlists in Winamp are created using relative paths and SC needs an absolute path. Still not sure what version of SC you are running though.

Three potential solutions:

1. Set up winamp so it no always creates playlists with absolute paths. I don't use winamp, so not sure how/if you do this.

2. Leave winamp set up as it is, but amend the playlists using find/replace so the relative path is updated to an absolute one. I have a small script that will semi automate this process for you (if you run Windows) - let me know if you'd like it.

3. Just as you've done, convert your winampl playlists to .pls for use in SC.

[dsj]

In the end, I discovered what I was actually doing wrong.
The playlists worked fine, the issue was that they would only show up when i did a full library rescan, I was telling it to do a playlists only rescan, for whatever reason that didnt work.
When I did a complete rescan, they showed up and worked, including the m3u variants.

So, appears all is good, thanks for the assistance.

Only thing Im trying to work out now is how you adjust the playing order on the actual duet controller. For example, if I have a playlist with 50 songs on, and i want to select song 30 to play next, how do you adjust the playing order? I have found it easy to do using ipeng on the iphone, but not on the duet controller. Thanks.

[davep]

Only thing Im trying to work out now is how you adjust the playing order on the actual duet controller. For example, if I have a playlist with 50 songs on, and i want to select song 30 to play next, how do you adjust the playing order? I have found it easy to do using ipeng on the iphone, but not on the duet controller. Thanks.

If that is all you want to do then it is easy. Scroll down to the song you want in the playlist view and press-and-hold the + key to do an "Add to play next". However, if you are thinking about a more complicated reordering of multiple tracks then I think you'll find that the Controller basically cannot do this and that iPeng wins here.

davep

[dsj]

That doesnt seem to work for me from within a playing playlist.

Say you browse to an album, and click Play All.
Then you go into the Now playing list, and want to select track 8 to play after track 1 which is currently playing.
I cant seem to do that on the remote.

Whats actually happening is when I press and hold + on a track it actually removes the song from the playlist.

[PaulKuhn]

Shortcuts should work to pick up playlist files - I have a couple that work like this.

Another likely reason is that the path in the winamp playlists is not the same path as the Squeezecenter library, so Squeezecenter can't read them.

A playlist is just a list of textual links to the music on your drives. In order to find the music, SC needs to "see" the path to the files in the same way that it sees the path to your music files. Open up one of the playlists in a decent text editor like Editpad and see what winamp is using.

So, for example, if you have given Squeezecenter the path "//NAS/Share" as your music library and your winamp playlists all use "F:/<MusicFolder>/", then you need to change the start of each path in the playlist from F:/<MusicFolder>/Song.mp3 to //NAS/Share/song.mp3 or whatever. Easy to do using find and replace.

The final thought I have is that if the path in the winamp playlist is "F:/..." then this may be a relative path, and may not work - Squeezecenter used to need absolute paths for playlists, although I think this may have changed now with the most recent versions of SC.

Finally, you will need to do a playlist rescan once you've got the paths to match, and the playlists then should work.

please,
mail me your script
TX

PaulKuhn