LOL! It's "Squeezebox Server" now? Should have just called it "Bing Server"

[JJZolx]

Is the cache clearing ability still a part of the console application? If so, that would be something it can do that hasn't been made a part of the web application.

What about the ability to set up the server to run as a Windows service? That also can't be done from the web app.

[peterw]

> Is there anything in it that can't be accessed via the Web UI (is the
> Web UI all that the control panel is, plus extra stuff, eg. advanced
> settings)?

No, the "native" control panel/preference pane/ is a sub set of what is
available in the web UI.

Ah, so "Web Remote" is the working name for the web UI, and you'll copy stuff into the native control panel as it makes sense. OK.

I still wonder about Dean's comment about Internet Radio. I can understand managing paid services like Rhapsody through a unified (i.e., hosted on mysqueezebox.com) web UI, but not simple public stream URLs.

A request for the control panel: on Windows, please stick to the "old" XP style. Some of the control panels in Vista/Server 2008 have gone crazy, like Microsoft knows it needs to give you 50 options but refuses to show more than 3 at a time. So getting stuff done (and, often, even finding where to do stuff) is a hassle in Windows OSes after XP/2003. Please don't emulate that.

I haven't used Mac OS much since 10.3, so I don't have any comments there that even I find useful.

Linux users seem more likely to hit the web UI (even if you get the wx stuff working, you have to figure out different distros' ways of configuring what goes in the normal menu hierarchies, right?), but I think the stuff I suggested in bug #9702 would help new Linux users who hit the Web Remote view.

[mherger]

> Are there any other benefits we would get by running cleanup.pl? With a
> name like "cleanup" it's got to something good, right?

Ok, the name is a bit misleading. It all started as a helper script which
support used to clean up users' installations: wipe caches, prefs, db etc.
as you like.

If you want to know more about it, read the specs:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.ph..._Control_Panel

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Michael

[mherger]

> I assume that if I run it once and uninstall wxperl that the control
> panel will still work, or is it actually running the control panel?

Oh, I forgot to comment on this: no, it will always need wxperl. What's so
scary about installing and running it?!?

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Michael

[mherger]

> Is the cache clearing ability still a part of the console application?
> If so, that would be something it can do that hasn't been made a part of
> the web application.

Oops, correct, there are a few additional features I forgot about...

- cleaning up caches, prefs etc. (this originally gave it its name)
- configuring the Windows binary version to run as service or not
- restart SC

But for the first part you wouldn't even need wxperl (it can run in the
console). The second part doesn't apply if you run the server from the
source.

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Michael

[gharris999]

> Um....what's wxperl? What's its relationship to ActiveState perl?

from http://wxperl.sourceforge.net/: "wxPerl is an extension module
allowing the creation of GUI (Graphical User Interface) from Perl; it is
built as a wrapper for the awesome wxWidgets C++ GUI toolkit."
(http://www.wxwidgets.org/). Allowing for platfrom independant GUI
development.

You don't have to know about this. You just have to install wxPerl from
the repository I posted, if you want to run the control panel from the
source on Windows.

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Michael

So, does the control panel have any role for SqueezeBox Servers installed on headless machines? I.e. can a user control a linux installed SBServer using a windows control panel executable from a windows client?

Is the control panel somehow more than just "SqueezePlay on steroids", i.e. SqueezePlay + settings management?

I suppose I could answer some of these questions for myself by giving the 7.4 branches a more thorough tire-kicking...but I'm still gun-shy after having bricked a SBC during my first looks at 7.4.

Edit: OK, looking at the wiki you pointed us to, it looks like I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought I understood you to say that the control panel would have a role in playback control in addition to settings management...but this appears to not be the case...yes?

[radish]

Edit: OK, looking at the wiki you pointed us to, it looks like I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought I understood you to say that the control panel would have a role in playback control in addition to settings management...but this appears to not be the case...yes?

Mu understanding is that the control panel is for things like start/stop server, manage updates, rescans, etc. A subset of the stuff under settings on the web UI. Playback etc will not be there.

[mherger]

> So, does the control panel have any role for SqueezeBox Servers
> installed on headless machines?

no, it's really just a common GUI (G like graphical :-)) for stuff which
has always been available in some other way. Web UI, Windows service
control, the "del" command etc.

> I.e. can a user control a linux
> installed SBServer using a windows control panel executable from a
> windows client?

No, it's working locally only.

> Is the control panel somehow more than just "SqueezePlay on steroids",
> i.e. SqueezePlay + settings management?

It has nothing to do with playback. It's about controlling the server
instance.

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Michael