Classic vs Duet

[reddot]

You'll be connecting your squeezebox to a receiver, right? If so, your receiver has a headphone jack. Why not just use that?

[Nonreality]

You will love the SB3(Classic). Very nice display and the sound quality is excellent. Then either get an iphone or a touch and you have a controller with a lot more uses than the controller. It's the best of both worlds. The SBClassic has a lot less problems because the remote is not wireless and is IR instead. One less problem I feel. I've had mine for almost 2 years now and it's the best thing I've bought in the last 10 years. It just works and works very well. It's a nice piece of audio equipment and looks nice. You can run multiple SB3's with an itouch and ipeng. Very nice system. Whatever you do get going so you can enjoy it all like we are. : )

[Mark Meyer]

You'll be connecting your squeezebox to a receiver, right? If so, your receiver has a headphone jack. Why not just use that?

I guess you have to understand how I want to use the phones.

To let you know a little about myself; I'm into vintage audio equipment from the standpoint of using it (most important aspect!), collecting, repair, and refurbishing.
I am mostly into Sansui's, and some of my collection includes the G-8000 receiver, and a bunch of amps including an AU-999, three AU-9500's, 777A, 555A, two AU-717's, an AU-710, and a few more amps. I have the matching tuners for most of the amps but I'm afraid that the tuners are quickly going obsolete due to Internet radio (which is one big reason I'm about to pull the trigger on a SB).
Among the vintage speakers I have, my favorites are a pair of ESS AMT-1's and a pair of ESS AMT-3's (AKA "Rock Monitors").

But even with all that "fun" stuff, I typically go to sleep at night plugged into my IAudio X5L using Bose QC2 headphones and running a series of Hearts of Space programs.
I have to use the headphones so I won't keep my wife awake, but I absolutely need to listen to something in order to get to sleep or my tinnitus will keep me awake most of the night.
Those of you who have tinnitus know what I'm talking about.

I just finished refurbing one of the Sansui AU-9500 integrated amps, and put new driver surrounds on the ESS AMT-1 speakers.
I am going to set up that stuff as my bedroom stereo system, but the amp is too big to have near where I can get to it without getting out of bed.
So to avoid having to run long headphone cables as well as to have to get up anytime I want to change settings, I want to have the SBR or SBC next to me on the nightstand and have my headphones plugged into it.
That way, I don't have to run my Sansui amp all night long if I just want to listen through the headphones running out of the SB.
However, at other times when I want to run the music through the speakers, the amp is there to do the job.

So with all that way too much personal information that nobody really wanted to hear, I think what I'm going to do is to just go ahead and get the SBClassic to start with, and then expand into the rest of the house after seeing how it works.

[aubuti]

Under those circumstances it does sound like you need a player with a headphone output, which would be an SB Classic or a Boom. (Note that on the forums the abbreviation 'SBC' usually means SB Controller.)

The only downside I can see with your proposed arrangement is that you'll have to move the SB3 back and forth between your nightstand and the amp. But that's not terribly inconvenient, especially if you leave the requisite interconnects in the amp and readily accessible.

[reddot]

If you bought the SB Controller that has a headphone jack, it could be used for your purposes, right? Then you don't have the issue of running the headphone cable or moving the SB unit. I guess the only question then would be the battery life, which I don't have experience with.

Or just get a MP3 player which you can leave plugged in next to your bed or which has a battery life which will play through the night.

Tinnitus sucks. I'm sorry that you have it.

reddot

[Mark Meyer]

If you bought the SB Controller that has a headphone jack, it could be used for your purposes, right?

Or just get a MP3 player which you can leave plugged in next to your bed or which has a battery life which will play through the night.

Tinnitus sucks. I'm sorry that you have it.

reddot

First point: It's already been established in these forums that the SB Controller headphone jack is intermittant at best, and useless more often.
If the function worked as it should, the Duet would have actually been my first choice.

Second point: That's what I do now. I have an IAudio X5L that I've been using for quite some time and could continue to do so. But since I'm going to finally install a nice stereo system in my bedroom, I thought I would look at integration, especially since I could access my entire music collection on my computer and not just what my X5L will hold (I happen to have the entire Hearts of Space collection recorded with OGG-6.... yea, you read that right; over 800 programs and counting).

Point three: Yes, it sucks a whole lot. As I went through my young life, I seemed to gravitate toward ear damaging activities. In sort of chronological order, I was heavy into shooting sports (and still am), then was in a high school rock band for better than 3 years, then got into full scale flying, then an auto repair body shop with all the loud impact and grinding tools, then the radio control hobby, and now in a woodworking business using extremely loud milling equipment.
Even though I have always used hearing protection, I think you can see that I didn't have a chance with coming through life with healthy hearing.
Sucks is an understatement.

[Mark Meyer]

Under those circumstances it does sound like you need a player with a headphone output, which would be an SB Classic or a Boom. (Note that on the forums the abbreviation 'SBC' usually means SB Controller.)

The only downside I can see with your proposed arrangement is that you'll have to move the SB3 back and forth between your nightstand and the amp. But that's not terribly inconvenient, especially if you leave the requisite interconnects in the amp and readily accessible.

Ahha! I thought the C in "SBC" stood for "Classic". You may now consider me an enlightened noobie.

I dont' think I need to move the SB3 (that's the "Classic", right?) back and forth because when I run the amp and speakers, I'd have to get up and change settings at the amp anyway.
However, if I ran a 15 foot RCA cable from the SB3 to the amp and have the SB3 next to me, I would then have the SB3 close for whenever I listened with the headphones and not the speakers (therefore not needing the amp at all).

I'm not trying to beat this to death. I'm just talking it out in case other people have a similar situation.

I think my mind is made up to where I'll just get the Classic with it's standard controller for the bedroom system.
Additionally, when it's time to add another SB to the living room, I'm pretty sure that I'd just go ahead and get another Classic for it as well.

The Controller could always be added and would add some functionality to the existing Classic units, and I think I'd like to do that. But that's not going to happen until Logitech gets the Controller onboard headphone jack thing figured out.

[aubuti]

I dont' think I need to move the SB3 (that's the "Classic", right?) back and forth because when I run the amp and speakers, I'd have to get up and change settings at the amp anyway.
However, if I ran a 15 foot RCA cable from the SB3 to the amp and have the SB3 next to me, I would then have the SB3 close for whenever I listened with the headphones and not the speakers (therefore not needing the amp at all).

Sounds fine. I was assuming that since you didn't want a long run of headphone cable that you wouldn't want a long run of RCA cable either. But I suppose there are some important differences between running cables to a nightstand vs. running cables right to your pillow...

Make sure that you rig up your SB3/Classic and/or your headphone cable so that you minimize the chance of accidentally pulling the SB onto the floor. It's not very heavy and would be easy to pull off the nightstand if you rolled over the wrong way. I came close to doing that a couple times, and now I'm back to my portable MP3 player for music to go to sleep by with headphones. For awhile I used my SB Controller, because I can tuck that under the pillow like the portable player. It worked fine for me, but I still didn't like the idea of possibly dropping the SBC off the bed. Most portable mp3 players are built more ruggedly than an SB Classic or SBC.

[Nonreality]

Ok weird subject but since it came up, can anything be done about Tinnitus? I've had it for years for about the same general reasons but never talked to a doctor about it. Should google it I guess but just wondering if anyone has had any luck with combating it?

[Mushroom_3]

Sounds fine. I was assuming that since you didn't want a long run of headphone cable that you wouldn't want a long run of RCA cable either. But I suppose there are some important differences between running cables to a nightstand vs. running cables right to your pillow...

Make sure that you rig up your SB3/Classic and/or your headphone cable so that you minimize the chance of accidentally pulling the SB onto the floor. It's not very heavy and would be easy to pull off the nightstand if you rolled over the wrong way. I came close to doing that a couple times, and now I'm back to my portable MP3 player for music to go to sleep by with headphones. For awhile I used my SB Controller, because I can tuck that under the pillow like the portable player. It worked fine for me, but I still didn't like the idea of possibly dropping the SBC off the bed. Most portable mp3 players are built more ruggedly than an SB Classic or SBC.

Maybe this is what you are looking for. It has a very long cable. I find it great for getting to sleep.
http://www.robertsradio.co.uk/Produc...Talk/index.htm