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  1. #11
    Pbox
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    Off topic question

    Definitely should. It might be an interrupt priority issue, where the
    WiFi processing takes priority over the decoding/sound card serving. You
    could just for testing, try to convert the file to WAV (AIFF) and see if
    the hiccups still happen.

    Pbox

    Marty wrote:

    > but shouldn't a 2.8 ghz processor have the cycles to spare to do this
    > without losing sound quality?
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Pbox" <slimdev (AT) peterlada (DOT) com>
    > To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
    > Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 7:38 PM
    > Subject: [slim] Off topic question
    >
    >
    >
    >>I would say, given that most recent WiFi cards are so called "soft"
    >>cards (remeber soft-modems?), meaning that some of the processing is
    >>dished out to the driver (CPU), instead of the hardware, the reason for
    >>your choppy music, is that the WiFi antenna is picking up signals or
    >>noise and requests the CPU to process the signal. This robs you from
    >>having the CPU available for music playing. Unfortunately this will not
    >>go away due to the Centrino architecture, where Intel decided to move
    >>the WiFi to the chipset. This can get better with a stronger processor,
    >>which will have cycles to spare even when processing WiFi and music at
    >>the same time...
    >>
    >>Pbox
    >>
    >>
    >>dean blackketter wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>The WiFi card is probably causing some RF interference (it's a radio
    >>>transmitter, after all...)
    >>>
    >>>Your best bet is to move one of them off on a USB interface.
    >>>
    >>>On May 28, 2004, at 3:58 PM, Marty wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>First thing I tried after your posts, was to see if I could cause the
    >>>>problem with and without my wifi card on. And as you would know, when

    >
    > it
    >
    >>>>was off, it never happened, yet when I turned the antenna back on, in
    >>>>came
    >>>>the random choppiness again... It's interesting. Why would the

    >
    > wifi
    >
    >>>>cause interference with the sound card? Is it hardware conflict btw
    >>>>the two
    >>>>devices, or a battle for cpu resources? Any other thoughts?
    >>>>
    >>>>marty
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>----- Original Message -----
    >>>>From: "dean blackketter" <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com>
    >>>>To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
    >>>>Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 5:06 PM
    >>>>Subject: [slim] Off topic question
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>Hey Marty,
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Kevin, our tech support guy, had a toshiba laptop a while ago and had

    >
    > a
    >
    >>>>>similar problem. He never completely resolved it, but his best guess
    >>>>>was that his wifi card was interfering with the audio hardware. Could
    >>>>>this explain your problem?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>-dean
    >>>>>
    >>>>>On May 28, 2004, at 1:30 PM, Marty wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>This isn't related to my SB, it's working well and I love it, but

    >
    > this
    >
    >>>>>>is
    >>>>>>related to audio playback on my laptop. I've a toshiba P25-s509

    >
    > series
    >
    >>>>>>laptop with windows xp pro installed. I have the most recent sound
    >>>>>>drivers
    >>>>>>installed, yet for some reason when I play an mp3 located on the

    >
    > local
    >
    >>>>>>HD, I
    >>>>>>get random choppiness. It's not the player, for it does the same
    >>>>>>thing in
    >>>>>>both windows media player and in winamp. Rest assured that these
    >>>>>>files all
    >>>>>>play beautifully over the LAN via the SB, this is just local playing
    >>>>>>on my
    >>>>>>laptop. Any suggestions on what the issue may be? Thanks in

    >
    > advance.
    >
    >>>>>>marty
    >>>>>>

  2. #12
    Marty
    Guest

    Off topic question

    will try.
    thanks, i'll let you know what happens.

    marty


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Pbox" <slimdev (AT) peterlada (DOT) com>
    To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
    Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 9:58 PM
    Subject: [slim] Off topic question


    > Definitely should. It might be an interrupt priority issue, where the
    > WiFi processing takes priority over the decoding/sound card serving. You
    > could just for testing, try to convert the file to WAV (AIFF) and see if
    > the hiccups still happen.
    >
    > Pbox
    >
    > Marty wrote:
    >
    > > but shouldn't a 2.8 ghz processor have the cycles to spare to do this
    > > without losing sound quality?
    > >
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: "Pbox" <slimdev (AT) peterlada (DOT) com>
    > > To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
    > > Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 7:38 PM
    > > Subject: [slim] Off topic question
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >>I would say, given that most recent WiFi cards are so called "soft"
    > >>cards (remeber soft-modems?), meaning that some of the processing is
    > >>dished out to the driver (CPU), instead of the hardware, the reason for
    > >>your choppy music, is that the WiFi antenna is picking up signals or
    > >>noise and requests the CPU to process the signal. This robs you from
    > >>having the CPU available for music playing. Unfortunately this will not
    > >>go away due to the Centrino architecture, where Intel decided to move
    > >>the WiFi to the chipset. This can get better with a stronger processor,
    > >>which will have cycles to spare even when processing WiFi and music at
    > >>the same time...
    > >>
    > >>Pbox
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>dean blackketter wrote:
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>The WiFi card is probably causing some RF interference (it's a radio
    > >>>transmitter, after all...)
    > >>>
    > >>>Your best bet is to move one of them off on a USB interface.
    > >>>
    > >>>On May 28, 2004, at 3:58 PM, Marty wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>>First thing I tried after your posts, was to see if I could cause the
    > >>>>problem with and without my wifi card on. And as you would know, when

    > >
    > > it
    > >
    > >>>>was off, it never happened, yet when I turned the antenna back on, in
    > >>>>came
    > >>>>the random choppiness again... It's interesting. Why would the

    > >
    > > wifi
    > >
    > >>>>cause interference with the sound card? Is it hardware conflict btw
    > >>>>the two
    > >>>>devices, or a battle for cpu resources? Any other thoughts?
    > >>>>
    > >>>>marty
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>----- Original Message -----
    > >>>>From: "dean blackketter" <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com>
    > >>>>To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
    > >>>>Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 5:06 PM
    > >>>>Subject: [slim] Off topic question
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>>Hey Marty,
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>Kevin, our tech support guy, had a toshiba laptop a while ago and had

    > >
    > > a
    > >
    > >>>>>similar problem. He never completely resolved it, but his best guess
    > >>>>>was that his wifi card was interfering with the audio hardware.

    Could
    > >>>>>this explain your problem?
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>-dean
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>On May 28, 2004, at 1:30 PM, Marty wrote:
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>This isn't related to my SB, it's working well and I love it, but

    > >
    > > this
    > >
    > >>>>>>is
    > >>>>>>related to audio playback on my laptop. I've a toshiba P25-s509

    > >
    > > series
    > >
    > >>>>>>laptop with windows xp pro installed. I have the most recent sound
    > >>>>>>drivers
    > >>>>>>installed, yet for some reason when I play an mp3 located on the

    > >
    > > local
    > >
    > >>>>>>HD, I
    > >>>>>>get random choppiness. It's not the player, for it does the same
    > >>>>>>thing in
    > >>>>>>both windows media player and in winamp. Rest assured that these
    > >>>>>>files all
    > >>>>>>play beautifully over the LAN via the SB, this is just local playing
    > >>>>>>on my
    > >>>>>>laptop. Any suggestions on what the issue may be? Thanks in

    > >
    > > advance.
    > >
    > >>>>>>marty
    > >>>>>>

  3. #13
    Waldy
    Guest

    alienstream v3 helper testing

    Peter,

    After a while looking at xine-lib & this stiky buffer thing (which I could
    see using the xine-ui front end too), I decided to give up fault finding
    (was giving me a headache) & re-compile the xine-lib.

    This cured this problem & your helper works now on most streams I have
    tried.

    Thanks for your hints, I'm new to linux & the sb so its been quite a steep
    learning curve.

    regards

    Waldy

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