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    Softsqueeze 0.5

    I created a new key pair with OpenSSH and got SoftSqueeze 0.5 to work. The SSH tunnel is working now using public key authentication. My initial impression though is that the connection is rather sluggish as compared to when I was using stand-alone SSH to create the tunnel. In particular, the Slimserver web interface is so slow that it is all but unusable. Also, the track time elapsed is even futher off than it was under version 0.4 of SoftSqueeze. The display is typically more than a full minute ahead of the music that is playing.

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    Softsqueeze 0.5

    > I created a new key pair with OpenSSH and got SoftSqueeze 0.5 to work.
    The SSH tunnel is working now using public key authentication. My initial
    impression though is that the connection is rather sluggish as compared to
    when I was using stand-alone SSH to create the tunnel. In particular, the
    Slimserver web interface is so slow that it is all but unusable. Also, the
    track time elapsed is even futher off than it was under version 0.4 of
    SoftSqueeze. The display is typically more than a full minute ahead of the
    music that is playing.

    The ssh library (jsch) does not handle streamed music correctly, and I have
    already had to work around this to get acceptable display and remote control
    performance. Could you try using the web interface before you start playing
    music, and let me know if that responds any better. If this helps I could
    open an additional port, say 9001 for the web interface until the bug in
    jsch is fixed.

    I am concerned about the the elapsed track time is incorrect, this should
    have been fixed in an earlier release. This works OK for me, what slimserver
    version and file formats are you using?

    Regards,
    Richard

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    Roy M. Silvernail
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    Softsqueeze 0.5

    Just a curiosity... I've got the bitrate cap set to 96kb so I don't
    absorb too much of the measly T-1 here at work. But looking at the
    track properties (right-arrow from Now Playing), SoftSqueeze shows the
    track's bitrate as saved on the server. Is there a way to display the
    actual received bitrate?
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    Softsqueeze 0.5

    Can you try Softsqueeze 0.5.2. The web interface is now more responsive over
    the ssh tunnel.

    I have made a fix to the elapsed time, but the bug would have meant the
    display was behind the music not ahead. Still confused about this one.

    Regards,
    Richard


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: <trmp3 (AT) hoghill (DOT) net>
    To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:43 AM
    Subject: [slim] Softsqueeze 0.5


    > I created a new key pair with OpenSSH and got SoftSqueeze 0.5 to work.

    The SSH tunnel is working now using public key authentication. My initial
    impression though is that the connection is rather sluggish as compared to
    when I was using stand-alone SSH to create the tunnel. In particular, the
    Slimserver web interface is so slow that it is all but unusable. Also, the
    track time elapsed is even futher off than it was under version 0.4 of
    SoftSqueeze. The display is typically more than a full minute ahead of the
    music that is playing.
    >
    >

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    Daryle A. Tilroe
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    Softsqueeze 0.5

    I am finding something seriously wrong with 0.5.1 and 0.5.2 as
    compared to pre0.5a. I have actually had to revert back and,
    near as I can see, it seems not to have been noticed/reported
    yet.

    The symptoms are basically that the display, when navigating with
    the arrow button, no longer moves smoothly; it sort of stutters
    with the top and bottom rows not in sync. Worse, the arrow
    navigation buttons, particularly the right and left, seem to
    register two clicks instead of one much of the time. Quite hard
    to navigate as you might imagine.

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    Daryle A. Tilroe

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    Softsqueeze 0.5

    Roy,

    When I use the bitrate limiting (with a recent nightly) the track properties
    reports both the original and converted bit rates like this:
    Bitrate 192kbps VBR (Converted to 64kbp CBR)

    At the moment you cannot display the received bitrate in Softsqueeze.

    Regards,
    Richard


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Roy M. Silvernail" <roy (AT) rant-central (DOT) com>
    To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 7:09 PM
    Subject: [slim] Softsqueeze 0.5


    > Just a curiosity... I've got the bitrate cap set to 96kb so I don't
    > absorb too much of the measly T-1 here at work. But looking at the
    > track properties (right-arrow from Now Playing), SoftSqueeze shows the
    > track's bitrate as saved on the server. Is there a way to display the
    > actual received bitrate?
    > --
    > Roy M. Silvernail is roy (AT) rant-central (DOT) com, and you're not
    > Never Forget: It's Only 1's and 0's!
    > SpamAssassin->procmail->/dev/null->bliss
    > http://www.rant-central.com
    >

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    Softsqueeze 0.5

    Darlye,

    Can you recreate this and check the cpu usage. Is Softsqueeze maxed out?

    Regards,
    Richard


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Daryle A. Tilroe" <daryle (AT) micralyne (DOT) com>
    To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
    Cc: <richard_titmuss (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk>
    Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 2:02 AM
    Subject: [slim] Softsqueeze 0.5


    > I am finding something seriously wrong with 0.5.1 and 0.5.2 as
    > compared to pre0.5a. I have actually had to revert back and,
    > near as I can see, it seems not to have been noticed/reported
    > yet.
    >
    > The symptoms are basically that the display, when navigating with
    > the arrow button, no longer moves smoothly; it sort of stutters
    > with the top and bottom rows not in sync. Worse, the arrow
    > navigation buttons, particularly the right and left, seem to
    > register two clicks instead of one much of the time. Quite hard
    > to navigate as you might imagine.
    >
    > --
    > Daryle A. Tilroe
    >

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    Daryle A. Tilroe
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    Softsqueeze 0.5

    Richard Titmuss wrote:

    > Darlye,
    >
    > Can you recreate this and check the cpu usage. Is Softsqueeze maxed out?


    IIRC the CPU usage was moderate. It is not hard to recreate
    as it occurs every time it is run :-). I will double check
    all this and my java when I get home tonight. I do note that
    remotely from work the display and buttons seem better/properly
    behaved.

    I also note that the level still seems a trifle high but I will
    double check from home.

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    Daryle A. Tilroe

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    Daryle A. Tilroe
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    Softsqueeze 0.5

    OK I think I have tracked down the cause:

    Up to now I have usually launched SoftSqueeze by
    the .jnlp file thus:

    codebase="file:///c:/Temp/SoftSqueeze-0.5.1"
    ....
    <property name="slimserver" value="127.0.0.1"/>

    This worked fine up until 0.5.x; previously directly
    launching the .jar file did not. Now if I launch
    the .jar file everything seems fine, and it works of
    course. However if I launch from the .jnlp locally
    I get the weird display and button behaviour; remotely
    everything is fine (ie. from work) regardless of how
    I launch it. So it appears the issue is with launching
    from the .jnlp file when it points to the localhost/loopback
    address (127.0.0.1).

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    Daryle A. Tilroe

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    Daryle A. Tilroe
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    Softsqueeze 0.5

    PS. I'm pretty sure I'm still getting some sort of
    digital "clipping" at '40'. Seems to go away if I
    step down even one to '39' without any audible loss of
    level. I also note that the analogue/digital output level
    setting or fixing in the player settings is gone; I
    assume it is intentional.


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    Daryle A. Tilroe

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