Volume adjustment for albums?

[Markoesa]

What does it mean? I turned volume adjustment off in the settings of in the musicsystem audio settings.

I have a squeezebox classic and I am now using flac files. Previously I used itunes but I turned it off (deselecting the itunes check). My music is on an external harddrive. I made a shortcut to the specific map and placed that in the User/Music folder.

I want to turn off this album volume adjustment, how can I do that? I checked both squeezecenter and the classic, both specify that volume adjustment is not used. When I lookup an album in SC, it says volume adjustment -8,43 in the album section.

Thanks for the help.

[Moonbase]

What it shows is what is in your tags for the files, respectively (Replay Gain or Apple SoundCheck values).

What it uses is what you specify on a per-player basis:

• No adjustment
• Track-based (also called "Radio") adjustment
• Album-based (also called "Audiophile") adjustment
• "Smart" adjustment (use track-based values normally, album values if consecutive tracks from any one album are played)

The values inside the files are just values calculated by a complex algorithm to make things "sound equally loud", they only affect the music in the file if you choose to apply them in a player.

So you can have the best of it all :-)

[Markoesa]

What it shows is what is in your tags for the files, respectively (Replay Gain or Apple SoundCheck values).

What it uses is what you specify on a per-player basis:

• No adjustment
• Track-based (also called "Radio") adjustment
• Album-based (also called "Audiophile") adjustment
• "Smart" adjustment (use track-based values normally, album values if consecutive tracks from any one album are played)

The values inside the files are just values calculated by a complex algorithm to make things "sound equally loud", they only affect the music in the file if you choose to apply them in a player.

So you can have the best of it all :-)

Hey, great! Thanks for the reply.

[Lefatshe]

The values inside the files are just values calculated by a complex algorithm to make things "sound equally loud", they only affect the music in the file if you choose to apply them in a player.

How does Exact Audio Copy, or any other ripping program, "know" the dB level of an album or track to make the adjustment? Is there a tag on a CD? Or does EAC "hear" the track/album? ;-)

Thanks for the easy to follow summary of how to use replay gain.

[Moonbase]

Yes, programs calculating Replay Gain actually have to "hear" the music (that’s why it takes a while).

Here’s a good (though already a little outdated) page from the original Replay Gain author David Robinson:
http://replaygain.hydrogenaudio.org/

Be aware that the most often used reference loudness is now 89 dB SPL.

(EAC probably uses LAME to get the Replay Gain values for MP3 files [it can easily be done while encoding] but as far as I remember only calculates track ("Radio") Replay Gain values.)

[Nonreality]

Yes, programs calculating Replay Gain actually have to "hear" the music (that’s why it takes a while).

Here’s a good (though already a little outdated) page from the original Replay Gain author David Robinson:
http://replaygain.hydrogenaudio.org/

Be aware that the most often used reference loudness is now 89 dB SPL.

(EAC probably uses LAME to get the Replay Gain values for MP3 files [it can easily be done while encoding] but as far as I remember only calculates track ("Radio") Replay Gain values.)

Yes both EAC and dbpoweramp can only do track gain while ripping. I don't bother during the rip because I like to have both track and album. So I do it after the rip.

[verypsb]

Yes both EAC and dbpoweramp can only do track gain while ripping. I don't bother during the rip because I like to have both track and album. So I do it after the rip.

Wrong. dbpoweramp does calculate track and album replaygain while ripping...

[Peter314]

Yes both EAC and dbpoweramp can only do track gain while ripping. I don't bother during the rip because I like to have both track and album. So I do it after the rip.

I didn't realise that. I only recently started using dbpoweramp, and one of the attractions was being able to do away with the extra step of applying RG. Just to make sure I understand, having both boxes ticked does not result in album gain unless this is done separately after ripping?

[chitunes]

What it shows is what is in your tags for the files, respectively (Replay Gain or Apple SoundCheck values).

What it uses is what you specify on a per-player basis:

• No adjustment
• Track-based (also called "Radio") adjustment
• Album-based (also called "Audiophile") adjustment
• "Smart" adjustment (use track-based values normally, album values if consecutive tracks from any one album are played)

The values inside the files are just values calculated by a complex algorithm to make things "sound equally loud", they only affect the music in the file if you choose to apply them in a player.

So you can have the best of it all :-)

Moonbase,

I have both types of tracks, tagged by Replay Gain and not. Yet I get volume adjustment readings for both. I'm confused. If SC uses the RG tags to calculate the adjustment, then where are the non-tagged volume readings coming from? Is SC capable of applying the algorithm on its own?

Appreciate your help on this.

[Nonreality]

It's either coming from a replay gain program that has added the tags or from Itunes soundcheck program. SC does not or cannot add tags to your music for replay gain.