SD and PC

[Donald]

Can one connect the Squeezebox Controller directly to a PC using a crossover cable? Meaning no LAN and no router.

[snarlydwarf]

Can one connect the Squeezebox Controller directly to a PC using a crossover cable? Meaning no LAN and no router.

The controller? No, it is wireless only.

The Receiver? Sure, you can use a crossover cable, though there would, technically, be a lan (with two devices, the SBReceiver and the PC).

The Controller could then connect to the the SBR via the wireless that is internal to the SBR, and therefore be a 3rd device on the network.

(Controller) <-wireless-> (Receiver) <-wired-> (PC)

The SBR is smart enough to allow the controller to talk to the PC (sort of a mini-access point, using what is called 'ad-hoc networking') so you don't actually need a 'proper' wireless network.

You would still have a network though. No way around that, but, then you don't actually need a hub/switch/access point.

[Donald]

Thanks. I meant the receiver. The key is I will be using this in my work office. I will have a PC, the SBD, a home audio receiver and JBL speakers. No connection to the company LAN allowed.

[Donald]

OK, got the Squeezebox. The online user docs say:
Next you’ll see the Wireless Connection screen, where you can
choose to “Connect using Squeezebox” or “Connect using other
wireless network”. Since you will be using the bridged installation,
you should select “Connect using Squeezebox.”

I don't have Connect using Squeezebox. I have montana and Other. I am guessing montana is a WiFi network somewhere in the neighborhood. If I select Other it wants a name.

I am stuck.

[radish]

Is the SBR hooked up to the wired network correctly?

[Donald]

I managed to get the whole setup working when the Receiver was connected to a router. I now have the Receiver connected to a PC using a crossover cable. The PC is not connected to a network. The SqueezeCenter shows the server as 127.0.0.1. I have put that IP into the Controller. I tell the Controller to connect but it never does. The light on the front of the Receiver is blue. There is activity between the PC and the Receiver as I see the green ethernet light blink.

[aubuti]

I managed to get the whole setup working when the Receiver was connected to a router. I now have the Receiver connected to a PC using a crossover cable. The PC is not connected to a network. The SqueezeCenter shows the server as 127.0.0.1. I have put that IP into the Controller. I tell the Controller to connect but it never does. The light on the front of the Receiver is blue. There is activity between the PC and the Receiver as I see the green ethernet light blink.

127.0.0.1 is the special "loopback" IP address. It makes a computer refer to itself, which is why it works on the PC that is running SC. But it doesn't work on the SBC because you're pointing the SBC to itself, and obviously it isn't running SC. You need to give the PC an IP address (maybe it already has one -- check under your network settings on that PC) and once you find that address, point the SBC to that.

[Millwood]

I managed to get the whole setup working when the Receiver was connected to a router. I now have the Receiver connected to a PC using a crossover cable. The PC is not connected to a network. The SqueezeCenter shows the server as 127.0.0.1. I have put that IP into the Controller. I tell the Controller to connect but it never does. The light on the front of the Receiver is blue. There is activity between the PC and the Receiver as I see the green ethernet light blink.

I think you need to reset the receiver. Hold the botton on the front till it flashes FAST red. I would also factory reset the controller if you've been using it on the lan.

[Donald]

aubuti:
I had the PC set to fixed IP 192.168.0.25. Are you saying I should have put that address in the Controller when it asked for the IP address?

I stuck a router in the setup. No WAN connection. Just the Receiver and the PC on the LAN side. All working now.

I will try the crossover cable setup again and point the Controller to 192.168.0.25.

Millwood: Every time I try something I start by resetting the Receiver AND Controller.

[Donald]

Well, I tried setting the IP to the PC IP address. No go. The Controller would just not give me an option to use the Receiver as a music source.

As far as I am concerned the Receiver cannot be used connected directly to a PC. It has to go through a router.