waiting for 127.0.0.1

[Sybull]

Thanks guys for the info. Much appreciated. Some answers

When I plug my PC diorect into my Cable modem, I am guessing I am getting the IP address that my ISP has given me (i.e 82.34.73.xxx)This is also the number I get when I google "What IP...". It changes to a 192. address when I plug it into the router.

Zaragon, yes you are right, my router IP address is 192. not 196. My mistake.

My OS is Windows XP SP3. My SC settings are:

SqueezeCenter Status
Version: 7.3 - 23767 @ Sat Nov 1 03:26:21 PDT 2008
Hostname: watson
Server IP Address: 192.168.0.xxx
Server HTTP Port Number: 9000
Operating system: Windows XP - EN - cp1252
Platform Architecture: 586
Perl Version: 5.8.8 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread
MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt
Total Players Recognized: 0
Library Statistics
Total Tracks: 52
Total Albums: 4
Total Artists: 1
Total Genres: 2
Total Playing Time: 3:20:57

The only change I made before this happened was upgrade SC from 7.1 to 7.3 to fix a problem with my stream dropping out every 90 seconds (which it fixed). It worked fine after that for several hours, then the following monring. Then in the afteroon, it started to struggle, the stream was choppy (but I put that down to me trying to access a MP4a track and not a MP3 track. After a reboot of everything it didn't want to know.

Now the interesting thing is, whilst doing this e-mail, I clicked on Server setting/squeezecenter status to get my server details and it starts saying "Waiting for 127.0.0.1", then after a few minutes ithe webpage goes blank with just "404 Not Found: settings/server/progress.html". The URL is is looking for is
"http://127.0.0.1:9000/settings/server/progress.html?type=importer&player=&timestamp=2008 11051527".

If I change the URL back to "http://127.0.0.1:9000" the interface come back up.

It seems to be waiting for some sort of reply and not getting it.

Quick question. Does my Server have to have a fixed IP ? I know for the PSP to connect it does or I need to change the address everytime I connect (and when it was working I left the router on). But since this started I have been turning off the router during the day and subsequently the IP address has been changing.

[Tejay]

Zaragon says:
Tejay, sorry but 127.0.0.1 isn't a wastebin it is a valid ethernet address and one often used when an application wants to talk to another process on the same computer. I don't think it does but an example would be the SqueezeCenter talking to MySQL on the same box. I believe in many implementations it is faster than using the boxes 'real' IP address.

Hmm, as I said 127.0.0.1 does more, but I think more of it as a waste bin. See: http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

Sybull:
Your DHCP is working, hence the 192. address. I cannot help you with the SqueezeCenter. That's a blind space for me. It works for me (five months), and I am happy with it.
I did try to help you because I find it strange why your equipment was trying to get a connection with 127.0.0.1. Even with a port number behind it, like 127.0.0.1:9000.
But as Zaragon says, it is (misused?) used more than I could think of.
Hope it's working for you again real soon!

[Sybull]

I have uninstalled it. Re-installed it. I have re-installed on another partition (totally different drive) (same PC), and this still happens. So it must be something they both share. I thought it was the router, but I think I have ruled that out.

I have an ageing laptop at home. I might install SC on this and try that as a server.

Also I will look at the log and see if I can decipher that.

[mherger]

Could you please send us your server.log file? Just in case you're using McAfee: make it ignore *.my* files.

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Michael

[Sybull]

I have reset the values and then un-installed both copies I installed on my PC. I then re-installed it (but to not to the default directory but one called sqcenter just in case).

Now when the startup wizard won't even come up. Just "waiting 127.0.0.1..."

My log says:

[08-11-05 21:55:32.6451] Slim::Schema::init (161) Warning: Creating new database - empty database or database from 6.3.x found
[08-11-05 21:56:11.3307] Slim::Plugin::MusicMagic::Plugin::initPlugin (150) Can't connect to port 10002 - MusicIP disabled.
[08-11-05 21:56:12.1519] main::checkDataSource (907) Warning: Schema updated or no tracks in the database, initiating scan.
[08-11-05 21:56:21.5797] Slim::Networking::IO::Select::select (271) Error: Select task failed: Can't call method "model" on an undefined value at /<D:\PROGRA~1\SqCenter\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXE>Slim/Web/Settings/Server/Wizard.pm line 159.
[08-11-05 21:58:22.8510] Slim::Networking::IO::Select::select (271) Error: Select task failed: Can't call method "model" on an undefined value at /<D:\PROGRA~1\SqCenter\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXE>Slim/Web/Settings/Server/Wizard.pm line 159.
[08-11-05 22:00:12.2662] Slim::Networking::IO::Select::select (271) Error: Select task failed: Can't call method "model" on an undefined value at /<D:\PROGRA~1\SqCenter\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXE>Slim/Web/Settings/Server/Wizard.pm line 159.
[08-11-05 22:00:59.6588] Slim::Networking::IO::Select::select (271) Error: Select task failed: Can't call method "model" on an undefined value at /<D:\PROGRA~1\SqCenter\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXE>Slim/Web/Settings/Server/Wizard.pm line 159.

Does that help ?

Thanks for the time people are spending reading and thinking about this.

[Zaragon]

Tejay I see how you meant it. Sorry but sometime I get kind of sensitive to some concepts which can sometimes get out of hand and eventually mislead people. In the case you cite your are indeed using it as wastebin. Though that probably gives you 404 not found messages instead of the advert. The firewall/AVS systems that support it can do something similar but inject a blank page thus no errors and no long wait for the response that doesn't come.

Sybull on the fixed IP address. I can't recall if the squeezeboxes store the service IP address or the server name. Many routers will allow you to assign an IP address to your server when it requests it rather than giving it a random one. If your router doesn't do this you can simulate it in some routers by setting the lease time to a long period. When a PC starts up and asks for an address if the router thinks it still has a lease active it will give it back the same address.

Doing it that way is easier than defining a fixed IP address in the PC itself.

It is starting to look a little like you have having problems with the database. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with it to help further.

What firewall / antivirus are you using? has the Windows firewall turned itself on? Perhaps an antivirus/IPS update has caused the difficulty. It might be worth trying to turn them all off for a short period to see if it has any affect. To be safe it might be worth disconnecting the Internet unless your router has a built in and active firewall.

[Tejay]

Hi Sybull

just adding my five cents:
You are installing SqueezeCenter as administrator and not as guest or user (less rights)? If you don't have to log in, ignore this question.

And then: why don't you install version 7.2.1 instead of 7.3. Version 7.3 is still a beta, though it did worked for you a limited time. I know something (streaming dropping?) did not work for you, but at least SC was working. And then it (127.0.0.1) is a beta problem.

Hi Zaragorn:
Yes, I see lots of 404 messages. Interesting that AVS does that better (I'm using McAfee and a external real server (which I think Sybull doesn't have, when he's talking about a server, he means SC inside his PC, I think). So McAfee doesn't bug me anymore with SC.

I am still confused how or why SC should use 127.0.0.1.

Sybull isn't using a fixed IP, he's just wondering about it. Quote:"Does my Server have to have a fixed IP ?"

[mherger]

> [08-11-05 21:56:21.5797] Slim::Networking::IO::Select::select (271)
> Error: Select task failed: Can't call method "model" on an undefined
> value at

That was a bug in a 7.3 nightly from a few days ago. Please update to the
latest build.

Michael

[Sybull]

Thanks Mherger, thats encouraging. I musty admit i tend to forget I'm running a beta. I had a quick go at installing 7.3 on my laptop and the same thing. So I was starting to worry it was a router setting (and we know how many of those there are !).

I will get a nightly build and/or try 7.2 this weekend.

I will let you know how it went.

[mherger]

> Thanks Mherger, thats encouraging. I musty admit i tend to forget I'm
> running a beta. I had a quick go at installing 7.3 on my laptop and the
> same thing. So I was starting to worry it was a router setting (and we
> know how many of those there are !).

BTW: the problem should only show up if you don't have a player connected to SC.

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Michael