iPeng support thread

[philippe_44]

Definitely not.
I'm not going to cut through the US export control restrictions red tape for strong cryptography.
Sorry.

Is it really ? I know that they are restrictions but I thought they were linked with how strong the encryption is and can't you limit SSH negotiation options ? Open SSH, Tunnelier, PuTTY and all these guys are falling under that category too ?

[pippin]

Yep. All of them. Even SSL. Even if you use the built-in SSL code in the iOS.
But it looks like the process has become a bit more simple since I last checked:
http://tigelane.blogspot.com/2011/01...ctions-on.html

No idea whether this also applies to SSH.

Bureaucracy can be sooo non-sensical.

Disclaimer: Developing a UI for SSH is probably a PIA so I'm still not sure I'm going to do that even in case it was easy from a legal standpoint....

[philippe_44]

Yep. All of them. Even SSL. Even if you use the built-in SSL code in the iOS.
But it looks like the process has become a bit more simple since I last checked:
http://tigelane.blogspot.com/2011/01...ctions-on.html

No idea whether this also applies to SSH.

Bureaucracy can be sooo non-sensical.

Disclaimer: Developing a UI for SSH is probably a PIA so I'm still not sure I'm going to do that even in case it was easy from a legal standpoint....

I understand - Seriously, if there is anything I can do to help, I'll be happy to support, but make sense that this is not your priority n°1. Currently I'm using either a VPN tunnel or an SSH client before launching iPeng. Works, but painful. Thanks for the anwer anyway :-)

[Mnyb]

Definitely not.
I'm not going to cut through the US export control restrictions red tape for strong cryptography.
Sorry.

Mkay but SSH ? It used everywhere ? i use the Terminus app on my iPad to ssh a terminal to my server and sometimes my Touch's

And there is all kinds of tunneling software around the world ? The rsa token I use at work ?
Why would such a benignnthing as a ssh tunnel clash with export restrictions ?
is not SSh ubigtius to every linux system.

Is it not just the strongest rsa that is restricted, meaning not forbidden but some negotiation must take place ? Otherwise how does internet banking work ?

All cryptography is not developed in the US ? How can US "export controll " things not exported from US ,Are there import controlls to , to restrict strong crypto to be imported ?

sorry for spamming your suport tread.


Edit: carefully read the links, so it is a automated registration process, that basically almost in every case allows standard methods when you have done then the paperwork and registred.

[erland]

Edit: carefully read the links, so it is a automated registration process, that basically almost in every case allows standard methods when you have done then the paperwork and registred.

I guess the issue is the paper work, usually takes a lot of time to figure out how to fill in those papers properly. And on top of that iOS already comes with a built-in VPN client, so you don't really need SSH in the app, just install PPTP or similar VPN server on your computer at home and you are ready to go.

[pippin]

Mkay but SSH ? It used everywhere ? i use the Terminus app on my iPad to ssh a terminal to my server and sometimes my Touch's

Yep.

And there is all kinds of tunneling software around the world ? The rsa token I use at work ?
Why would such a benignnthing as a ssh tunnel clash with export restrictions ?

'cause it's the law. (in the US and Apple sits there).

is not SSh ubigtius to every linux system.

And if you want to export one from the US, you need an export license.
For PGP they once did a big effort to get it out of the country (printing the source, exporting it and scanning it again; that was a loophole then). After all, you can IMPORT cryptography into the US without problems...

Is it not just the strongest rsa that is restricted, meaning not forbidden but some negotiation must take place ? Otherwise how does internet banking work ?

By getting a license. It'S not that this is impossible, it's just red tape. And I just learned yesterday that as of 2010 the red tape obviously got a bit simpler. Although it still has some formal registration processes that takes weeks in it.

All cryptography is not developed in the US ? How can US "export controll " things not exported from US ,Are there import controlls to , to restrict strong crypto to be imported ?

Import is no problem, I can see in the US. Problem is: Apple is a US company and they _want_ to obey US law (they don't want trouble, either) so they require it even though technically only a few countries would be affected (the ones where the App is being sold through the US App Store but which are not the US).
Apple doesn't want three different processes either, I suppose.

Edit: carefully read the links, so it is a automated registration process, that basically almost in every case allows standard methods when you have done then the paperwork and registred.

Yes, that's what I said above. When I last checked (which was before that change) it was a different, much more complex process, I might go through that one and use encryption in a few places where I would love to.

I guess the issue is the paper work, usually takes a lot of time to figure out how to fill in those papers properly. And on top of that iOS already comes with a built-in VPN client, so you don't really need SSH in the app, just install PPTP or similar VPN server on your computer at home and you are ready to go.

Yep.

[philippe_44]

I guess the issue is the paper work, usually takes a lot of time to figure out how to fill in those papers properly. And on top of that iOS already comes with a built-in VPN client, so you don't really need SSH in the app, just install PPTP or similar VPN server on your computer at home and you are ready to go.

Agreed and this is what I'm using (PPTP or L2TP) but SSH has so many easy & efficient client and server implementations (I use either Open SSH or Bitvise Tunnelier and they are really great, takes 5 minutes to install a server) but mainly SSH, when ran over port 443 will go through almost anything and that for me the main reason for using it preferably

[CharlieG]

Sorry if this has been asked before, it seems so obvious I can't believe it hasn't but can't find it by searching. Both SqueezePad and Duet Conroller show under the album art on the now playing screen all artists (e.g., Oistrakh, Staatskapelle Dresden, Konwitschny) whereas Ipeng only shows the first artist (Oistrakh). Is this a bug, a feature or an oversight?

Regards

Jerry

Neither. It's different information being returned by the server because I use a different query than SqueezePlay. I plan to change this for quite a while but it's more than just a simple change because the whole format of the information being returned has changed.

Hey pippin,
Has there been any progress on this issue? I am still only seeing one artist displayed on the now playing screen.

[pippin]

Hey pippin,
Has there been any progress on this issue? I am still only seeing one artist displayed on the now playing screen.

No, it's a huge change in iPeng, may only come with the redesign even though I have done some work recently on making some things more common.

Another question I have to answer first is when I'm going to cut support for some older server versions since I'm not sure the change will be backwards-compatible to before 7.4

[mps]

I'll try again with forcing background execution. The last time I tried the problem was that the command did no longer go through when the call came in, but that was a few iOS releases ago.

I tried setting "Pause On Call" and testing it over the last few days. It successfully paused five times (although it failed one other. I'll let you know if I figure out how to reproduce).

Thanks so much for supporting this valuable functionality,

Mike